I was reading through an older thread on the forum and saw a user say something along the lines of serotonergic chimpanzees being the leaders of their group ?
I am not sure what to think because from what I notice in people - low-serotonin attitudes seems to always imply higher social status
I was reading this study administering prozac to primates made them engaged in higher status behavior ?
After prozac the monkeys engaged in the following:
Dominant animals display an air of calm self-assurance, self-control, and self-directed behavior.
before prozac:
Subordinates, on the other hand, appear fidgety, easily perturbed, and their behavior seems to be largely controlled by external stimuli rather than being self-directed
How can this be ?
Isn't prozac and other anti-depressants supposed to raise serotonin ? It seems like the effects here are backwards - every person I knew in real life on anti-depressants did seem excessively high serotonin - so then what happens ?
Does it upregulate serotonin by lowering it and is that why anti-depressants are dangerous ?
The effects of Prozac all seem to be low-serotonin but according to the study prozac increased serotonin in the chimpanzees causing them to rise up in social status ? This seems backwards to me
I am not sure if I agree with serotonin being associated with high-status animals - apex predators seem to be generally more low-serotonin (orcas, gorillas, lions) - very androgenic, chill attitude-type animals which to me looks high DHT and low serotonin and they look to me to be high status animals in general - I never see them engage in conflict unless they have to
Meanwhile smaller primates like chimps seem low-status compared to the animals I mentioned - they seem to be very serotonergic compared to larger primates yet apparently giving them anti-depressants or raising serotonin seemed to increase social status according to the study ?
I am not sure what to think because from what I notice in people - low-serotonin attitudes seems to always imply higher social status
I was reading this study administering prozac to primates made them engaged in higher status behavior ?
After prozac the monkeys engaged in the following:
Dominant animals display an air of calm self-assurance, self-control, and self-directed behavior.
before prozac:
Subordinates, on the other hand, appear fidgety, easily perturbed, and their behavior seems to be largely controlled by external stimuli rather than being self-directed
How can this be ?
Isn't prozac and other anti-depressants supposed to raise serotonin ? It seems like the effects here are backwards - every person I knew in real life on anti-depressants did seem excessively high serotonin - so then what happens ?
Does it upregulate serotonin by lowering it and is that why anti-depressants are dangerous ?
The effects of Prozac all seem to be low-serotonin but according to the study prozac increased serotonin in the chimpanzees causing them to rise up in social status ? This seems backwards to me
I am not sure if I agree with serotonin being associated with high-status animals - apex predators seem to be generally more low-serotonin (orcas, gorillas, lions) - very androgenic, chill attitude-type animals which to me looks high DHT and low serotonin and they look to me to be high status animals in general - I never see them engage in conflict unless they have to
Meanwhile smaller primates like chimps seem low-status compared to the animals I mentioned - they seem to be very serotonergic compared to larger primates yet apparently giving them anti-depressants or raising serotonin seemed to increase social status according to the study ?