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ilovethesea said:
Such_Saturation said:
Do you think Blake College got drugs planted inside it and shut down because it was capitalistic?

It's not about left vs. right. That's just an illusion - a distraction.

I think Ray Peat is still considered a very dangerous man. (For all the right reasons imo.)

"More than 50 years ago, I realized that the US culture had become effectively totalitarian, with decorations, and even the decorations were being fixed by the specialists (the Congress for Cultural Freedom, for example). I went through a series of graduate studies and projects looking for places where reality could influence the culture, rather than being obliterated by it. " Ray Peat

"I think they do it in elegant offices in the drug companies, for example the 1941 estrogen conspiracy described by Carla Rothwell in her history of hormone replacement. Just before the approval of the synthetic form of vitamin A, there was a wave of articles across the country, including the national magazines, about the great danger of natural vitamin A overdoses; the synthetics were promoted as the safe alternative. I asked some of the reporters where they got the information, and one gave me the name of a university professor. When I phoned and wrote her for some details about it, she didn’t answer; her secretary said she wasn’t available. The coincidence of the rash of news stories, and the phoniness of the reported facts, couldn’t reasonably be explained as anything but a drug marketing campaign. Usually it’s done in the medical journals first, but in that campaign they apparently worked directly through professors and the mass media. There are occasional simply stupid medical accidents, but the everyday medical horrors are obviously done with massive organization and deliberation. They calculate the billions in profits against the probable cost in legal settlements, and time the drug withdrawal accordingly, when the costs are expected to cancel profits. But when it’s done at the top, with capital, it isn’t conspiracy." Ray Peat

^ And obviously this isn't just going on in pharmaceutical industry... Ray knows that.


Isn't The Congress of Cultural Freedom an anti-communist advocacy group ? Even the New York times has written about its political undertones and we all know how incompetent the new york times is at reporting news.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.h ... 838D679EDE

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract. ... 5F428685F9

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congress_f ... ite_note-7
 

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Just because there is a conspiracy theory, doesn't mean there isn't a conspiracy. :)
The US is a blatant plutocracy. They can do a lot of their control out in the open, but they do seem to want to keep some of their dealings secret, since they still want to preserve some illusion of democracy.
 

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Such_Saturation said:
Let's quote a "conspiracist" blog:
<<Why did US bankers fund the Russian Revolution?
The funding of the Russian Revolution by US bankers had nothing to do with their desire to spread communism or with sympathising with the communist cause. They funded the Bolsheviks for three main reasons: The Russian Oil fields, the establishment of a Central Bank, and getting rid of the last Tsar:

Both America’s Standard Oil, which belonged to the Rockefeller family, and the Royal Dutch Shell, of which the Rothschild family were the major stock holders, had interests in the rich Russian oil fields. But these oil fields belonged to the Tsar Nicholas II.

The last three Tsars of Russia (Alexander II, Alexander III and Nicholas II) had always opposed the creation of a Central Bank in Russia own by the international bankers.

The Tsar Nicholas II was not only in the way of the international bankers in regards to the Russian oil fields and the Central Bank, but was also well aware of the banker’s plot to take over the world. The Bolsheviks did not only kill Tsar Nicholas II, they also killed all the members of the Russian Royal family; including women and children.>>

I agree these are some of the reasons... but not all of them. Bolsheviks weren't Russians.
 

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narouz said:
LucyL said:
Such_Saturation said:

Based on the fear expressed by the commenters, he's the oogie-boogie man. The oogie-boogie man is much needed to scapegoat any large scale operations.

Very often in conspiracy theories of this (thread's) nature,
the oogie-boogie man looks--
as I've noted up the thread--
more like this:

Times have changed. Or perhaps this just isn't the Third Reich. But, keep on :beatdeadhorse
 
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narouz said:
LucyL said:
Such_Saturation said:

Based on the fear expressed by the commenters, he's the oogie-boogie man. The oogie-boogie man is much needed to scapegoat any large scale operations.

Very often in conspiracy theories of this (thread's) nature,
the oogie-boogie man looks--
as I've noted up the thread--
more like this:

What is your purpose of writing this?
 

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I think Narouz has a point, and I don't think it's stopped yet - Jews are still being set up as scapegoats by the rulers.
 

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the whole thing is messed up...you can basically look at it these days as jews...normal, jewish people, traditional jewish people...and then Israel...which is like, a political military piece that isn't really run or doesn't operate how most jewish people do. It gives them a bad name and mars a lot of the good ones. Most jews I know are pretty good people...but the stuff I hear about in Israel is often ridiculous, reminds me of a military state...and I don't think the leaders are really acting like proper jews would, many of them

and if the rothschilds really are behind a lot of this and are jewish...its kind of just a name, cause they aren't acting like they should be if such is the case
 
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tara said:
I think Narouz has a point, and I don't think it's stopped yet - Jews are still being set up as scapegoats by the rulers.

Who are the rulers?
 

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gummybear said:
tara said:
I think Narouz has a point, and I don't think it's stopped yet - Jews are still being set up as scapegoats by the rulers.

Who are the rulers?
Mostly the ultra rich, or those who control the wealth. And thereby directly rule over the large corporations or areas they own, and get laws made to suit them more widely, to keep funnelling money towards them, etc. The people who own and control the banks, the big armaments, pharmaceutical, agriculture etc industries. A few of them are no doubt Jewish, but not the majority.
 

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It just so happens that in another thread from last year
the OP and another of our illustrious posters debated
who was really The Great Man of libertarian thought.
The OP was of the opinion it was one Eustace Mullins.

gummybear said:
burtlancast said:
gummybear said:

So, you reckon Mullin's contains most of Griffin's content ?

Griffin ripped it off from [Eustace Mullins], and excluded the most important parts.


Here is a five part YouTube on Eustace Mullins:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLmjGqF_KqE[/youtube]

Here is an excerpt from Wiki about the famous poet Ezra Pound,
and notes Eustace Mullins' connection to Pound:

Although Pound repudiated his antisemitism in public, Tytell writes that in private it continued. He often refused to talk to psychiatrists with Jewish-sounding names, would refer to people he disliked as Jews, and urged his visitors to read the Protocols of the Elders of Zion (1903), a forgery claiming to represent a Jewish plan for world domination.[77] He struck up a friendship during the 1950s with the writer Eustace Mullins, believed to be associated with the Aryan League of America, who wrote a biography of Pound, This Difficult Individual, Ezra Pound(1961).[83]
Even more damaging was his friendship with a far-right activist and member of the Ku Klux Klan, John Kasper. Kasper had come to admire Pound during some literature classes at university, and after he wrote to Pound in 1950 the two became friends. Kasper opened a bookstore in Greenwich Village in 1953 called "Make it New," reflecting his commitment to Pound's ideas; it specialized in far-right material, including Nazi literature, and Pound's poetry and translations were displayed in the window.[84] Kasper and another follower of Pound's, David Horton, set up a publishing imprint, Square Dollar Series, which Pound used as a vehicle for his tracts about economic reform.[85] Wilhelm writes that there were a lot of perfectly respectable people visiting Pound too, such as the classicist J.P. Sullivan and the writer Guy Davenport, but it was the association with Mullins and Kasper that stood out.[83] The relationships delayed his release from St Elizabeths.[85] In an interview for the Paris Review in 1954, when asked by interviewer George Plimpton about Pound's relationship with Kasper, Hemingway replied that Pound should be released and Kasper jailed.[86] Kasper was eventually jailed for the 1957 bombing of the Hattie Cotton School in Nashville, targeted because a black girl had registered as a student.[85]

An interest in Rothschild conspiracy theory fits together nicely
with a reverence for Eustace Mullins, in my opinion.
 

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LucyL said:
narouz said:
LucyL said:
Such_Saturation said:

Based on the fear expressed by the commenters, he's the oogie-boogie man. The oogie-boogie man is much needed to scapegoat any large scale operations.

Very often in conspiracy theories of this (thread's) nature,
the oogie-boogie man looks--
as I've noted up the thread--
more like this:

Times have changed. Or perhaps this just isn't the Third Reich. But, keep on :beatdeadhorse

Wouldn't it be pretty to think so.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/17/o...s-behind-germanys-new-anti-semitism.html?_r=0

http://www.economist.com/news/europ...wards-jews-and-other-minorities-who-other-now

http://www.npr.org/2014/09/14/348499404/thousands-gather-in-germany-to-rally-against-anti-semitism

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bernardhenri-levy/my-weekend-in-tunis-anti_b_6091200.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-scared-children-s-future-warns-Miliband.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/16/opinion/enrique-krauze-anti-semitism-stirs-in-latin-america.html

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/aug/07/antisemitism-rise-europe-worst-since-nazis

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/119758/anti-semitism-21st-century-ticking-time-bomb

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-28853221

http://time.com/63960/hate-crimes-anti-semitism/

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/politics-blog/2014/09/17/anti-semite-runs-for-senate/15791301/
 
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tara said:
gummybear said:
tara said:
I think Narouz has a point, and I don't think it's stopped yet - Jews are still being set up as scapegoats by the rulers.

Who are the rulers?
Mostly the ultra rich, or those who control the wealth. And thereby directly rule over the large corporations or areas they own, and get laws made to suit them more widely, to keep funnelling money towards them, etc. The people who own and control the banks, the big armaments, pharmaceutical, agriculture etc industries. A few of them are no doubt Jewish, but not the majority.

Who are the "ultra rich"?
 
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narouz said:
It just so happens that in another thread from last year
the OP and another of our illustrious posters debated
who was really The Great Man of libertarian thought.
The OP was of the opinion it was one Eustace Mullins.

gummybear said:
burtlancast said:
gummybear said:

So, you reckon Mullin's contains most of Griffin's content ?

Griffin ripped it off from [Eustace Mullins], and excluded the most important parts.


Here is a five part YouTube on Eustace Mullins:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLmjGqF_KqE[/youtube]

Here is an excerpt from Wiki about the famous poet Ezra Pound,
and notes Eustace Mullins' connection to Pound:

Although Pound repudiated his antisemitism in public, Tytell writes that in private it continued. He often refused to talk to psychiatrists with Jewish-sounding names, would refer to people he disliked as Jews, and urged his visitors to read the Protocols of the Elders of Zion (1903), a forgery claiming to represent a Jewish plan for world domination.[77] He struck up a friendship during the 1950s with the writer Eustace Mullins, believed to be associated with the Aryan League of America, who wrote a biography of Pound, This Difficult Individual, Ezra Pound(1961).[83]
Even more damaging was his friendship with a far-right activist and member of the Ku Klux Klan, John Kasper. Kasper had come to admire Pound during some literature classes at university, and after he wrote to Pound in 1950 the two became friends. Kasper opened a bookstore in Greenwich Village in 1953 called "Make it New," reflecting his commitment to Pound's ideas; it specialized in far-right material, including Nazi literature, and Pound's poetry and translations were displayed in the window.[84] Kasper and another follower of Pound's, David Horton, set up a publishing imprint, Square Dollar Series, which Pound used as a vehicle for his tracts about economic reform.[85] Wilhelm writes that there were a lot of perfectly respectable people visiting Pound too, such as the classicist J.P. Sullivan and the writer Guy Davenport, but it was the association with Mullins and Kasper that stood out.[83] The relationships delayed his release from St Elizabeths.[85] In an interview for the Paris Review in 1954, when asked by interviewer George Plimpton about Pound's relationship with Kasper, Hemingway replied that Pound should be released and Kasper jailed.[86] Kasper was eventually jailed for the 1957 bombing of the Hattie Cotton School in Nashville, targeted because a black girl had registered as a student.[85]

An interest in Rothschild conspiracy theory fits together nicely
with a reverence for Eustace Mullins, in my opinion.

It's good that you reveal your true colours.
 

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I would have said Mises (a Jew :holysheep) and Rothbard were the modern shapers of libertarian thought. And if you want to cast back a hundred and fifty years or so, you can't ignore Lysander Spooner.


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/17/o...s-behind-germanys-new-anti-semitism.html?_r=0

The new anti-Semitism does not originate solely with the typical white-supremacist neo-Nazi; instead, the ugly truth that many in Europe don’t want to confront is that much of the anti-Jewish animus originates with European people of Muslim background.

:extenquishflame

I'm not really up on Muslim conspiracy theories, but I'm sure they have them. I do think it is safe to say by and large Muslims are not libertarian.
 
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