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burtlancast said:

Now, just to cheer everybody up....

The Ebola breakout coincided with UN vaccine campaigns, by Yoichi Shimatsu

http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2014/08/1 ... -shimatsu/

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Such_Saturation said:

But what about the markets full of bat meat?

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burtlancast said:

Such_Saturation said:

But what about the markets full of bat meat?

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Certainly just another convenient cover story, like they have used in the past for the Aids epidemic.

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Such_Saturation said:

I personally think these kind of entities exploit random events rather than creating them ad-hoc and then doing cover-ups.

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burtlancast said:

Such_Saturation said:

I personally think these kind of entities exploit random events rather than creating them ad-hoc and then doing cover-ups.

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There was nothing random about the AIDS epidemic.

There exists official documents attesting the US was doing research on a biological agent able to escape the normal surveillance by the immune system.

That was around 1965.

Lorraine Day, Stanley Monteith, Boyd Graves, Alan Cantwell have detailed this extensively.

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Such_Saturation said:

It is permissive money-hunger and irresponsibility, it is not direct intervention.

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burtlancast said:

Such_Saturation said:

It is permissive money-hunger and irresponsibility, it is not direct intervention.

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I believe it's direct intervention, since it's been made possible through the powers of the existing monopolies, such as the ones controlling information, banking, medecine, etc...

The same monopolies which openly promoted eugenism and population control, starting from the end of the ninetennth century...

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Such_Saturation said:

. It's very common for people to prefer a view that minimizes their duty for action, blaming everything on an infinitely powerful enemy

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burtlancast said:

Such_Saturation said:

. It's very common for people to prefer a view that minimizes their duty for action, blaming everything on an infinitely powerful enemy

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How does the denouncing of a manipulation minimize one's duty for action, of all places ?

Ray has written excellent passages about the authoritarianism prevailing in all parts of academia: does he come across to you as devoid of any sense of duty, or action ?

What you probably meant to say is not all people are ready to question their core beliefs, and act on it, something David Ray Griffin defined as cognitive dissonance.

It's perfectly true; but at the same time, there's scores of other people that are able to question and re evaluate those, then modify their behavior.

I think this forum is a perfect example of this.

And it doesn't take ALL the people to change a paradigm; often 5% of the population is enough.

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Such_Saturation said:

Ray Peat doesn't just identify an enemy without a cause.

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burtlancast said:

Such_Saturation said:

Ray Peat doesn't just identify an enemy without a cause.

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Isn't it pretty common knowledge the ultimate scope/ cause of monopolies is to maintain themselves in control ?

They are the children of what Machiavelli and Orwell described as a totalitarian world, where the goal of a society is to wage war against itself, leaving the rulers unchanged...

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Such_Saturation said:

Worldview and oppression are a chicken and egg problem, and failing to see that, you deserve the oppressors that you have.

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burtlancast said:

Such_Saturation said:

Worldview and oppression are a chicken and egg problem, and failing to see that, you deserve the oppressors that you have.

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I wouldn't say the Africans and gays who got intentionnally infected with the AIDS virus in the eighties got what they deserved.

Your statement is true only when one realises he's being lied and manipulated, but still attempts to get along with the script in exchange for temporary "security".

These kind of people deserve all the wrong they themselves provide, and i completely agree with you on that.

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burtlancast said:

Such_Saturation said:

It is permissive money-hunger and irresponsibility, it is not direct intervention.

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I believe it's direct intervention, since it's been made possible through the powers of the existing monopolies, such as the ones controlling information, banking, medecine, etc...

The same monopolies which openly promoted eugenism and population control, starting from the end of the ninetennth century...

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Such_Saturation said:

It's points of view but you might underestimate the subtlety of these mechanisms. It's very common for people to prefer a view that minimizes their duty for action, blaming everything on an infinitely powerful enemy rather than an infinitely subtle worldview which the establishment endorses. How would reductionism lead to the holocaust, right? How foolish to think so

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