Project 13 (FULL): Protection And Restoration Of The Nervous System, 2005 Conference

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Name: Protection and Restoration of the nervous system, 2005 conference
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So here comes my overdue part. I have listened to the whole interview. This is really an interesting one. Hope we get it transcribed completely. ;)

== continuation of the last sentence of part 1 == introducing information by punching out pieces of card. And this particle in science explained memory and learning through the lifespan in terms of selective death of brain cells. If we are losing a hundred thousand brain cells every day, just think how this converts to a computer were you even punch out hundreds of thousands of bits of information on each card you put into the computer.

This... I could name probably twenty completely insane ideas that were current in the biological community. For example, probably half of my biology professors had one time cited a study by August Weismann who in 1889 or 1890 cut the tails of 1500 mice over a period of 22 mouse generations. And said this just proves Lamarckian and Darwinian inheritance or evolution of acquired traits.

Of course Lamarck ... Even when I was eight and read this in an encyclopedia that was obvious that Weismann was making propaganda because Lamarck said,

"Animals that strive and adapt and acquire new traits by this striving adaptation has some of this traits on the next generation. And Darwin ... My parents had some books including Darwin's first editions and that had the introductions like the descent of men happen in production in which Darwin said "People are saying that I base evolution on the Malthusian idea of the survival of the fittest and elimination of unfit and so on. I said, "No, ??here?? are the things that I believe account for evolution. And he named the things that Lamarck and Darwin's grandfather Erasmus Darwin was an evolutionist in the 18th century, at the very end of the 18th century, where Erasmus Darwin was saying exactly the same things that Lamarck said, that sexual selection and adaptation and ???indurbance??? acquire traits.


Darwin as late as the 1860's said, "You are ???extorting??? me. I agree with Erasmus Darwin and Lamarck on these points." But by the end of the century Weismann was typical... The social Darwinist said, "Malthus had great idea, that weak people are eliminated and so the human species is improved by misery; poverty, disease and war are improving the human species."

??Publicary?? critic wrote that he had seen evidence that the king hired Malthus specifically to help put down the revolutionary spirit, because the monarchy was realizing, that they were in danger, because people were impoverished, diseased and heading to be killed in pointless wars. So he had Malthus say, "It's good to suffer. Poverty, disease and war are creative. They eliminate the bad stuff." And this is ... Weismann's mouse tail experiment, was just one wildly propagandistic thing ??? to knock down Darwin and Lamarck. His main work was counting chromosomes even though he had such bad vision that he couldn't use a microscope. In 1890 he determined that the development of an individual from an ovum is possible because the genetic material such as Mendel identified, the genetic material is all there in the ovum and when that fertilized egg divides, each of these subsequent divisions loses some genetic information. And obviously you couldn't clone from a somatic cell, because not all of the genetic information is there. So he said, "The germ-line is immortal - the body, the soma, is mortal." and he said, "Each time you differentiate to a new tissue or organ, that's because you've lost some of the genetic information that was in the ovum." And remember this was 60 years before Americans learned to even count the average number of chromosomes in people. A guy who couldn't use a microscope because of bad eyes created a doctrine of the deletion of the information to explain the expansion of complexity from an fertilized egg to an adult organism. Weismann said that "since the body is mortal, it doesn't have everything it needs to create itself. If you take only one part. So it's gonna ware out". They were on ??? started there on the same time, but the mortal tissues of the body are not there, and they will eventually just going to ware out. Programmed aging essentially derives from this idea of the deletion of information.

The whole trend of the 20th century biology was building on this idea of increasing complexity by deleting information. And so the guy that said, "learning is because our brain is dying," he was exactly analogous to Weismann's "the organism develops because it loses information." And in the 50s there were people who said that you can x-ray bacteria and cause them to mutate into new forms by destroying their genes with x-rays. And this was, as weird as it seems... Bacteria that had lost their genetic information were said to have even rised to the next higher complexity in evolution. And all of the ??? of complex organisms were believed by the Weismann principle to have derived from bacteria that had lost information.

That picture of progress to loss, I think traces back to the times that Erasmus Darwin ... He had a slogan even on the side of carriage "From Seashells Everything Comes" ??? trait, but that got him in trouble, so he had it painted out fairly quickly, because people realized that evolution was contrary to the creationist doctrine. For example, well into the 19th century to graduate or even to study at British universities you had to essentially sign royalty oath that you believed all of the tenets from the Church of England. People like ?Chelly? were not welcome at the English universities. Earlier censorship was tightening up all through the 18th century, and people like Darwin... Instead of ???aiding??? scientific ??? about evolution as Lamarck did in France, which was relatively lose... Darwin were ??? about the nature of live and put his ideas of acquired, adapted from sexual selection creating evolutionary progress.
 

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