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Hi People,
I actually don't know where to start, but I'll explain in in short.
Basically I am using supplements since last year september. 1 month after I started, I had some bloodworks done and I got I high TSH, which led to the conclusion I was somewhat hypothyroid. This was way before I started supplementing, I think I have improved (as in body temperature wise). However, there are some things I need to know (which I will explain soon). This is what I've been using currently:
- Thorne Multivitamin:
Basic Nutrients 2/Day
- Vitamin C:
Did take 1g for a while, now I'm at approx 500mg-750mg a day. Still use 1g occasionally.
- Iodine:
Approx 12.5mg daily. U may get (what they call) detox symptoms, it was very unpleasant in the beginning. It sometimes (rarely) still is, but that may be due to the fact that I am not supplementing it long enough yet. Please research this well, because it's a kinda tricky supplement. You do not want to make mistakes, but if u have any questions just ask em. I'm glad enough to have the chance of answering them.
-Selenium
Used to take brazil nuts (x2) but now my multivitamin contains 200mcg of this, so I take 1 extra brazil nut (= anywhere between 50-200 mcg, depending on size).
-Vitamin D
Used to take approx 1200IU a day, but I am still at 76nmol/l which is 30ng/ml. I took 5000IU to see if I could hit higher values (until I reached 40-50). I reached this level last week and now I cut down to 2000IU-3000IU a day. I will continue to experiment and see if I can stay at approx 40 ng/ml
-Zinc 30mg
15mg bisglycinate (from Multi)
15mg picolinate (from thorne)
= 30mg in total
-Copper:
I almost never use it, perhaps 1 once every 2 weeks or once a week.
-Magnesium:
400-600mg a day. I use it in chloride form (orally) and I also have a spray which I can apply topically (and I do this after heavy workouts)
-Vitamin E:
Mixed tocopherols only 50-200IU a day, unique E.
-Vitamin K2:
200mcg as MK7 (using it once every 3 days)
45MG (45000mcg) as Mk4, I will eventually cut this back to 5-9 mg daily
- Taurine: 1000mg to 2000mg a day
- Boron: 2mg during off periods and 7-9mg during cycling periods
-cycling 3 days on and 3 days off (Thursday, Friday and Saturday are the days I am using it)
- Great Lake Gelatin supplement (Kosher Beef Hide one, not the porcine one)
- Vitamin A:
I recently added extra vitamin A, because my multivitamin was only containing 2000IU of retionol palimitate and 3000IU of carotene. I used cod liver oil and that contained 3000IU of retinol aswell, so that would make it 5000IU of retinol and 3000IU from carotene. Sometimes I use 10-12.5k daily.
In a week, that would make up to a total of 30-40k of retinol.
- Calcium:
500mg on days where I feel I don't get enough calcium through my diet.
-CoQ10 (Kaneka): 100 - 200mg daily
- Turmeric: something in liquid form that I use once-twice a week, teaspoon full.
Now for my bloodwork results, I actually had my testosterone measured (prior to supplementing or around that time when I started) and it said this were my results:
September 2016
TSH 7.5 mU/L (0.3-4.2)
FT4 16 pmol/L (12-22)
December 2016
TSH 6.3 mU/L (0.3-4.2)
FT4 15 pmol/L (12-22)
Anti-TPO test to rule out Hashimoto's <28 kU/L (<= 60)
Testosteron 34 nmol/L (5.5-25) [34 nmol/L = 9.81 ng/L = 981 ng/dL]
February 2017
TSH 8.5 mU/L (0.3-4.2)
FT4 14 pmol/L (12-22)
Anti-TPO <28 kU/L (<=60)
Testosteron 34 nmol/L (5.5-25) [34 nmol/L = 9.81 ng/L = 981 ng/dL]
25-OH Vitamin D3 130 nmol/L (50-150) [optimal 150-200]
So my testosterone stayed the same. I am actually thinking of using pansterone or androsterone, but perhaps I may not need it all together. Hence I am reaching out to you guys. I can pretty much choose any type of bloodwork, so don't worry about the costs (it's about my health after all)
My question(s) since I am getting bloodworks done this week:
1) Should I get my Dhea measured, and if so, what are optimal levels. Is there a specific (preffered) type of measuring it, what do I need to ask the doctor.
2) What about my testosterone levels, I assume they are good? Would it be dangerous to use pansterone (i.e. pregnenolone and dhea)
3) any other type of supplementation that u would or would not recommend.
I am 25 years old btw!
Thank you guys!
@haidut @Constatine (hoping that u guys take a look at this thread also if possible)
I actually don't know where to start, but I'll explain in in short.
Basically I am using supplements since last year september. 1 month after I started, I had some bloodworks done and I got I high TSH, which led to the conclusion I was somewhat hypothyroid. This was way before I started supplementing, I think I have improved (as in body temperature wise). However, there are some things I need to know (which I will explain soon). This is what I've been using currently:
- Thorne Multivitamin:
Basic Nutrients 2/Day
- Vitamin C:
Did take 1g for a while, now I'm at approx 500mg-750mg a day. Still use 1g occasionally.
- Iodine:
Approx 12.5mg daily. U may get (what they call) detox symptoms, it was very unpleasant in the beginning. It sometimes (rarely) still is, but that may be due to the fact that I am not supplementing it long enough yet. Please research this well, because it's a kinda tricky supplement. You do not want to make mistakes, but if u have any questions just ask em. I'm glad enough to have the chance of answering them.
-Selenium
Used to take brazil nuts (x2) but now my multivitamin contains 200mcg of this, so I take 1 extra brazil nut (= anywhere between 50-200 mcg, depending on size).
-Vitamin D
Used to take approx 1200IU a day, but I am still at 76nmol/l which is 30ng/ml. I took 5000IU to see if I could hit higher values (until I reached 40-50). I reached this level last week and now I cut down to 2000IU-3000IU a day. I will continue to experiment and see if I can stay at approx 40 ng/ml
-Zinc 30mg
15mg bisglycinate (from Multi)
15mg picolinate (from thorne)
= 30mg in total
-Copper:
I almost never use it, perhaps 1 once every 2 weeks or once a week.
-Magnesium:
400-600mg a day. I use it in chloride form (orally) and I also have a spray which I can apply topically (and I do this after heavy workouts)
-Vitamin E:
Mixed tocopherols only 50-200IU a day, unique E.
-Vitamin K2:
200mcg as MK7 (using it once every 3 days)
45MG (45000mcg) as Mk4, I will eventually cut this back to 5-9 mg daily
- Taurine: 1000mg to 2000mg a day
- Boron: 2mg during off periods and 7-9mg during cycling periods
-cycling 3 days on and 3 days off (Thursday, Friday and Saturday are the days I am using it)
- Great Lake Gelatin supplement (Kosher Beef Hide one, not the porcine one)
- Vitamin A:
I recently added extra vitamin A, because my multivitamin was only containing 2000IU of retionol palimitate and 3000IU of carotene. I used cod liver oil and that contained 3000IU of retinol aswell, so that would make it 5000IU of retinol and 3000IU from carotene. Sometimes I use 10-12.5k daily.
In a week, that would make up to a total of 30-40k of retinol.
- Calcium:
500mg on days where I feel I don't get enough calcium through my diet.
-CoQ10 (Kaneka): 100 - 200mg daily
- Turmeric: something in liquid form that I use once-twice a week, teaspoon full.
Now for my bloodwork results, I actually had my testosterone measured (prior to supplementing or around that time when I started) and it said this were my results:
September 2016
TSH 7.5 mU/L (0.3-4.2)
FT4 16 pmol/L (12-22)
December 2016
TSH 6.3 mU/L (0.3-4.2)
FT4 15 pmol/L (12-22)
Anti-TPO test to rule out Hashimoto's <28 kU/L (<= 60)
Testosteron 34 nmol/L (5.5-25) [34 nmol/L = 9.81 ng/L = 981 ng/dL]
February 2017
TSH 8.5 mU/L (0.3-4.2)
FT4 14 pmol/L (12-22)
Anti-TPO <28 kU/L (<=60)
Testosteron 34 nmol/L (5.5-25) [34 nmol/L = 9.81 ng/L = 981 ng/dL]
25-OH Vitamin D3 130 nmol/L (50-150) [optimal 150-200]
So my testosterone stayed the same. I am actually thinking of using pansterone or androsterone, but perhaps I may not need it all together. Hence I am reaching out to you guys. I can pretty much choose any type of bloodwork, so don't worry about the costs (it's about my health after all)
My question(s) since I am getting bloodworks done this week:
1) Should I get my Dhea measured, and if so, what are optimal levels. Is there a specific (preffered) type of measuring it, what do I need to ask the doctor.
2) What about my testosterone levels, I assume they are good? Would it be dangerous to use pansterone (i.e. pregnenolone and dhea)
3) any other type of supplementation that u would or would not recommend.
I am 25 years old btw!
Thank you guys!
@haidut @Constatine (hoping that u guys take a look at this thread also if possible)