38 Male UK. Tired Of Being Like The Walking Dead

[milkboi]

Iron infusion!? How come? You must have severly low iron if he offers infusions?

i have a supplement combination I use when I feel my brain iron is getting low and I start experiencing symptoms again.
I take a iron supplement combined with copper and vitamin A. The copper and vitamin A increases ceruloplasmin. Ceruloplasmin converts the Fe2 to Fe3. Transferrin has high affinity for Fe3 and its transferrins job to shuttle iron to where its needed. Magnesium i take also it has been shown to increase both iron loading and loading capacity of transferrin protein. So they all work synergestically. Absorbing iron, converting it and transporting it to where its needed. The brain. The nigra striatum is the brain region responsible for most dopamine synthesis. Its named nigra striatum as in black substance in latin. Its because its darker in colour than other brain areas. Why? Because its also the most iron dense brain area and the iron makes it darker by neuromelanin synthesis. So obviously if its the most dopamine synthesizing brain region and its so iron heavy its because it needs a lot of iron to synthesize dopamine.

like to add vitamin C is needed for iron to be loaded onto transferrin. But supplemental ascorbic acid is not good because it opposes ceruloplasmin synthesis. Get your vitamin C from food.
Same goes for high vitamin D can long term deplete retinol so should be used with caution. And zinc supplements oppose copper much more heavily than copper oppose zinc.

No, it's not that low (will post my blood work today or tomorrow). He's a CFS doctor and offers more unconventional treatments. From what I've read here iron infusion seems preferable to a supplement because the latter can lead to bacterial overgrowth.

 

[Jennifer]

Hi @Diddleum! You mention having dabbled with Peat ideas for years, did this include thyroid supplementation? I ask because so much of what you wrote screams thyroid (and adrenals) to me, but I won't waste your time with a long post if you've already experimented with it.

 

[Diddleum]

[QUOTE="Diddleum, post: 488503, member]
Spent money on a private doctor seeking insulin resistance he put me on the diabetic drug glucophage? But did nothing...

What???
He, just like that, put you on glucophage (metformin) because you told him you're, supposedly, insulin resistant???[/QUOTE]

he ran a few blood tests like c reactive protein , he may of done insulin but I don’t remember... neither result was significant and yeah whacked me on metformin. Did nothing but make me constipated...

 

[Diddleum]

Hi @Diddleum! You mention having dabbled with Peat ideas for years, did this include thyroid supplementation? I ask because so much of what you wrote screams thyroid (and adrenals) to me, but I won't waste your time with a long post if you've already experimented with it.

Hello,

My temps pulse and bloods are pretty good but yeah I’ve tried taking thyroid.

It is like eating sugar pills, I get a little pulse temp increase the first few doses but then they just do nothing and I can take 400mcg t3 and it does absolutely nothing!

 

[Kingpinguin]

No, it's not that low (will post my blood work today or tomorrow). He's a CFS doctor and offers more unconventional treatments. From what I've read here iron infusion seems preferable to a supplement because the latter can lead to bacterial overgrowth.

Yes that is true. Some people have hard time tolerating oral iron anyway. I never had a problem. If you suffer from CFS I would actually give it a try. Then you know. Like you said there’s many effective ways to de-iron yourself if you wish to do so.

 

[Diddleum]

1800 temp is 37c 68bpm

just eaten meat and fruit. Had a carrot and some charcoal.

feel a little clearer maybe about an hour after 10mg memantine.

 

[marsaday]

Hello,

My temps pulse and bloods are pretty good but yeah I’ve tried taking thyroid.

It is like eating sugar pills, I get a little pulse temp increase the first few doses but then they just do nothing and I can take 400mcg t3 and it does absolutely nothing!

Did you ever try low doses when starting on T3 ? What was the start dose ?

It sounds like your system is shut down. Usually it is cortisol which is switched off. In CF patients this is quite common.

Do you go to bed at normal times and wake at a usual time. Sleeping before 11pm and waking at 7-8am is very important. A regular routine is a must.

Ever tried prednisolone to help with adrenal fatigue ?

 

[marsaday]

Have you seen Dr Myhills website ? She is a CFS specialist and is based in Wales. She has some really good info on her website.

 

[johnwester130]

Hello,

I’m starting a log here, hopefully I’ll keep it up, apologies in advance if I go awol. I do keep a paper diary but it makes more sense to keep a log here and maybe get help from or help others.

I’m a successful financially free 38 year old 6ft 80kg male. My whole life I’ve struggled with depression, low energy, no libido, erectile dysfunction, premature ejaculation, anhedonia etc etc.

I sleep easily and long but wake up regularly to urinate regularly. Voice is nasal and weak. I suspect estrogen dominance being my major issue.

I’ve taken roaccutane for acne and ssri for depression in the past but both over ten years ago.

thyroid function seems good. Bloods are fine 1.5tsh.

Waking temp this morning was 36.5c 68bpm.
I eat a portion of minced beef/salt and a apple and quickly I am now up to 36.8c.

My temps seem to come up better in the evening and I often see 37C+ after a decent evening meal if I have been eating plenty in the day.

It is UK Winter time atm and despite being a mild winter its cold, so I am pretty satisfied with my temps as a starting point. I dont think my thyroid is in two bad shape.

I have a athletic heart rate which at times has been as low as 40bm.

I have been dabbling with Peats ideas for years on and off, but I am here to have a decent attempt to correct my issues. Ive always suspected diet to having a large part of how I feel. Ive done all the usual low carb, no carb, paleo, primal diets in the past, but nothing extreme for years. I am borderline ortherexic probably, and often consider I am going mental focusing on my health so much.

Generally speaking I feel best when I eat nothing! The more I eat the worse I feel in general. I have zero appetite, could go days without eating if I let my appetite control. Occasionally when I force down massive amounts I feel amazing for a day or two and then crash to even lower than when I started.

Caffeine an make me feel great after the first dose, but after a few days of a few cups it leaves in in complete HELL. Headache depression nausea etc.

I am a muscular lean build, you can see all my abs. I have been my whole life. I used to lift weights but haven’t done in years and I maintain an impressive physique for a 38 year old. I dont do any exercise accept for the physical work I do running my carpet cleaning business part time.

I suspect a estrogen problem. I have no gut issues, I just tried two weeks of strong tetracycline and it didnt do anything for me at all.

I never get strong stress feelings from not eating. I am focusing now on a high protein adequate sugar, a little fat diet. Ive done this for a few days and my morning temp come up from 36.3. My theory at the moment is I haven’t been eating enough protein for my liver to detox estrogen, and I have some what of a build up of it. Anything that increases metabolism like eating a lot, caffeine, exercise leaves me feeling like ***t. Since Ive been eating high protein for 4 days (about 150grams) Ive been feeling like ***t despite my waking temp going up.

Is this a possibility? Pushing metabolism whilst estrogen dominant makes you feel worse? I guess I need to keep going focusing on the protein/carrots/charcoal and hope my estrogen lowers.

I have extremely high SHBG (120nmol!) , decent total T levels, low free testosterone. I have tried injection Testosterone for 6 months, with my levels going from normal to sky high and everything in between. I can honestly say that I could feel no effect from injecting T! It might as well been water I was injecting. This despite my higher test levels being confirmed by blood tests.

Currently sat in bed feeling like ***t, waiting to feel some reprieve. I’m force myself to go on a walk though as the sun is out.

I’ve taking aspirin, have tried almost all peat supplements but no success. Going to focus on consistency with diet.

this is the peat newbie guide

Simple Newbie Guide To Peat's Work :

generally the best supplements are

a,d,e,k2
b complex
a thyroid supplement
red light exposure

 

[Diddleum]

Did you ever try low doses when starting on T3 ? What was the start dose ?

It sounds like your system is shut down. Usually it is cortisol which is switched off. In CF patients this is quite common.

Do you go to bed at normal times and wake at a usual time. Sleeping before 11pm and waking at 7-8am is very important. A regular routine is a must.

Ever tried prednisolone to help with adrenal fatigue ?

Started off petrified of t3 sane as test. I started with a nibble of a 10mcg tablet and worked up until
It did nothing, like nothing at all.

same with test, I went up to bodybuilder like levels and felt nothing.

my cortisol always measures as top of range or slightly above and follows a healthy daily curve. If anything my cortisol is too high so I don’t think I should be supplementing it. I supplemented liquorice once to increase it and I felt awful.

im familiar with my hill and followed a diet she reccomend a other the years but nothing really.

 

[Vinny]

he ran a few blood tests like c reactive protein , he may of done insulin but I don’t remember... neither result was significant and yeah whacked me on metformin. Did nothing but make me constipated...

Well, don't know what to say..... the world has gone mad....
You don't say if you still take it, I presume not. I lack deep knowledge of it, but generally people here, are trying to get off it, not to get ON, you know...

 

[Diddleum]

Well, don't know what to say..... the world has gone mad....
You don't say if you still take it, I presume not. I lack deep knowledge of it, but generally people here, are trying to get off it, not to get ON, you know...

no it was years ago took it for a month or two then stopped.

 

[Diddleum]

UPDATE

36.4C 68bpm

Woke feeling normal/***t. Woke once in the night to urinate about 4am. Had some nocturnal boners.

Temp dropped a point. Eat high protein yestarday but a bit less sugar. Slept in just my under shorts. Eat more sugar today. Keep protein high. Dress a bit warmer in bed.

memantine made me feel a little spaced out last night. Hard to say if it was positive or negative. Will re dose after I’ve done my work for the day.

 

[GreekDemiGod]

Spent money on a private doctor seeking insulin resistance he put me on the diabetic drug glucophage? But did nothing.

I am not sure what is the Peat way to treat diabetes (type 2). Probably PUFA depletion. However, type 2 diabetes is easily put in remission by a Ketogenic Diet. You can not know this in 2020. It's unnacceptable.

 

[Bart1]

I am not sure what is the Peat way to treat diabetes (type 2). Probably PUFA depletion. However, type 2 diabetes is easily put in remission by a Ketogenic Diet. You can not know this in 2020. It's unnacceptable.

Keto does not solve insulin resistance, and will make it worse. Diabetes is caused by elevated free fatty acids and can be treated with things like aspirin, niacinamide, thyroid, progesterone

 

[GreekDemiGod]

Keto does not solve insulin resistance, and will make it worse.

It will quickly bring HBA1C and fasting blood glucose down to safe levels, though.

 

[Diddleum]

Estrogen estrogen estrogen

thinking much about estrogen and my sky high shbg and estrogen symptoms.

Im very lean and don’t store fat at all. Most people can store excess estrogen as fat? Could gat storage act as a sort of buffer to estrogen clearance ? Similarly shbg is protective and perhaps a buffer to estrogen clearance? Mine is sky high maybe as I dont store fat and my thyroid and metabolism is real good.

also over the Xmas period I have been sitting around as I’ve had no work. My symptoms have been worse. Looking back my worst times have been when I had a desk job and sedantry.

im wondering the importance of movement or exercise for estrogen removal?! There’s plenty of studies saying movement and exercise are critical to estrogen metabolism.

I feel worse when I eat carbs usually. I suspect my thyroid is good. A low carb diet quitens most of my bad symptoms. Perhaps eating carbs ramps up my metabolism creating more steroid hormones but more critically adding to the pile of toxic estrogen that I’m just not clearing?

So I am walking while I write this, I have a cleaning job after and I’ll hit the gym for some light exercise till bed time.

the theory makes sense to me ?

I’m focusing on estrogen clearance before I try and push metabolism.

 

[GreekDemiGod]

Looking back my worst times have been when I had a desk job and sedantry.

Having a desk, corporate job is the worst for health. Lack of freedom, lack of sunlight in the morning, sitting indoor, not enough oxygen. Oh boy, I'm so gonna leave it behind.

 

[Diddleum]

Having a desk, corporate job is the worst for health. Lack of freedom, lack of sunlight in the morning, sitting indoor, not enough oxygen. Oh boy, I'm so gonna leave it behind.

Amen to that. I’m much happier out and about doing my cleaning business.

 

[Diddleum]

Speculating here on my last post but maybe fat gain is mainly the body storing excess estrogen?

plenty of healthy happy fatter people about is that because there bodies can store excess estrogen with fat rather than let it circulate?