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The last sentence should have read carcinoid not carcinogenic.Blossom said:Technically yes. I found out 10 months after the blood work was done because my doctor at the time was so horrible. When I found out I had been feeling better compared to when that blood work was done so I decided to doctor myself. I guess I'm a bit more anti medicine than most having worked in the field for close to 20 years. My game plan is to have the whole blood serotonin drawn again in the next month or two and see where I'm at with this. Sometimes the food eaten can effect the blood work as well. I used to get the rashes associated with a carcinogenic tumor and that has resolved.
5magicbeans said:It has been almost 12 hours since my dose last night and I am still groggy....
Wow! I take only 4-6mgs and after almost three months still feel groggy! Admittedly it is improved over time though. That illustrates how it is good to hear varying experiences.jyb said:5magicbeans said:It has been almost 12 hours since my dose last night and I am still groggy....
If this is your first 1-3 days starting it, then it's normal. I was sleepy in the morning the first day or two. But now I can take 50mg and only feel a light effect.
Please don't be anxious. Usually high gut serotonin doesn't mean a carcinoid tumor. I would just get the levels checked to ease your mind if you are worried. My test results said the exact words" elevated 5-HIAA indicative of a possible carcinoid tumor" so if your previous testing did not say this or the ordering physician didn't seem concerned then try to relax and get the test done. Also look up foods that can give a false high reading such as avocados. I don't believe any of the typical foods on a Peat inspired approach should give a false positive reading but it's still good information to know. You may find out that you had eaten something that causes a higher reading before your original test. I seem to recall bananas and macadamia nuts being on the list as well. I personally believe that following a Peat inspired approach has changed the environment in my gut and created an atmosphere of healing in my body. I'd rather take my chances with this approach than subject myself to surgery and radiation. It's been a year and a half since that test and I'm doing better than ever. Have the test repeated but reread RP's articles specifically searching for the topic of cancer before you make any decisions out of fear. We all have to do what we judge is right for our own unique situation but it never hurts to be well informed. Medical doctors often paint a bleak picture because that is what there experience has taught them. Some of us have chosen a different route with a different outcome, one that is just as real. Hang in there. Stress is the last thing any of us needs more of!katiekeen said:Thanks for your reply Blossom. I will go to my Dr and have it checked out. I am feeling anxious now, do people die of carcinoid tumours or are they treatable?
you have all the answers you need! I decided to doctor my self because after years of working with medical doctors I could no longer comfortably submit to their care. I think you can shift the balance away from serotonin and are well on your way to doing just that!katiekeen said:Thanks Blossom. I have had my blood serotonin tested just before Christmas and the level was 1220 nmol/l (results said "marginally high"). My Dr didn't mention anything about it. I also had my 5-HIAA tested a few years back via an organics acid test. It was high also but I didn't worry about it at the time because I was taking 5 HTP. I emailed Dr Peat about and this is his reply:
It's important to know how it was measured, and what your platelet count was. Is your intestine inflamed? Since serotonin affects bone metabolism, have your serum calcium, phosphate, parathyroid hormone, vitamin D3, prolactin, and cortisol been measured?
I then sent him my other lab results (cholesterol, T3 Vit D, Vit A, Lactic acid, prolactin, parathyroid etc.
I then asked him if I should see my Dr re a carcinoid tumour and this was his response:
I don't think doctors know what to do for regulating serotonin. Vitamin B6 helps to direct tryptophan toward niacinamide, away from serotonin. Gelatin contains no tryptophan, so things like consomme can be helpful. Raw carrots, because of their antiseptic effect, help to lower irritation and bloating. Antibiotics can be helpful, when the small intestine is overgrown with bacteria. Thyroid supplementation will lower cholesterol. Some people get very sleepy with just two milligrams of Periactin, so I think it's good to start with one mg. the first night. Two milligrams can make a big difference, and when symptoms stop the effects can last for days without using it.
I started on the Periactin (Cyproheptadine) and believe I am having good results. I have also tried to limit my meat as well (tryptophan). A few years back I was diagnosed with pyroluria (my body doesn't retain Vit B6 or zinc) and I understand B6 is required to push tryptophan down the niacin pathway rather than serotonin. My organics acid test also showed high quinolinic acid, not sure exactly how that is related
iLoveSugar said:Cypro made my liver enzymes elevate.