Denmark abolishes all COVID measures.

[Michael Mohn]

How is total economic controll marxism ... wtf.

This is a fundamental tenant of Marx that privat property is evil. All property should belong to the community.

 

[Risingfire]

How is total economic controll marxism ... wtf.

Do you understand the implications of marxism?

 

[Ben.]

This is a fundamental tenant of Marx that privat property is evil. All property should belong to the community.

Uhm, that is over-simplified and biased.

The end goal of the one world government is the introduction of a digital currency and digital ID, plus abolishment of a cash economy and private property. Total economic control aka Marxism.

Now this control could be done, altough less effective under other systems like capitalism aswell so that isn't akin or "aka" marxism.

Do you understand the implications of marxism?

People trowh the words communism and marxism at everything bad/evil, because to them, thoose ideologies are fundamentally wrong/bad in their opinion which i totally disagree with. You'll find that in any "system" the oligarchy is the issue.

This is no thread to discuss marxism and i've no intention to discuss it here further, however incase you would like to know, i see the criticism against capitalism from a marxist perspective as valid. That does not mean i endorse or advocate either of thoose ideologies. Socialism has never been pulled off well but for the same reasons why capitalism and private ownership in this system sucks too.

Anyhow, i woudln't call dictatorship or totalitarianism trough digital, economic control - marxism.

 

[Michael Mohn]

Uhm, that is over-simplified and biased.



Now this control could be done, altough less effective under other systems like capitalism aswell so that isn't akin or "aka" marxism.



People trowh the words communism and marxism at everything bad/evil, because to them, thoose ideologies are fundamentally wrong/bad in their opinion which i totally disagree with. You'll find that in any "system" the oligarchy is the issue.

This is no thread to discuss marxism and i've no intention to discuss it here further, however incase you would like to know, i see the criticism against capitalism from a marxist perspective as valid. That does not mean i endorse or advocate either of thoose ideologies. Socialism has never been pulled off well but for the same reasons why capitalism and private ownership in this system sucks too.

Anyhow, i woudln't call dictatorship or totalitarianism trough digital, economic control - marxism.

A lot of people mix communism and socialism not understanding that they were arch enemies through the centuries. Partly due to confusing Leninist 'socialism' which is a derivative of Marxism with traditional socialism which goes back to 18th century and was an anti oligarchy, anti monarchy movement like the anarchist. Socialist are for private property and are class conscious. They want more power and more resources for their class, the producing/working class. Socialists are pro family. Marx wanted to eliminate the upper class and abolish private property and put all resource under the control of the collective. How and by whom this collective is organised Marx hardly elaborated on but through history we learned that it's a new upper-class, revolutionaries and (by accident) mostly jewish who will control all resources. Btw a central bank with a mandated fiat currency is a Marxist institution, an enforced monopoly on money.

 

[Drareg]

apparently theres a video of biden thinking hes off camera saying to someone "you just got the american people to believe in a threat of climate change" or something like that?
what kind of laws, rules do you think theyll implement with climate change?


sucks, where did you see this? hopefully, would be airplane only...

The usual fascist style, they don’t want capitalist growth contrary to popular belief, they want de-growth, this allows for monopolization, the climate narrative fits this, they have enough money from their bank bailout wealth transfers, they want neo feudalism essentially with a lower population, they are threatened by a growing working class. They also want open boarders to weaken nationalism, they need to protect themselves from this by geofencing everyone.

The NGO’s will run cover for the state and corporate collusion hiding the blatant fascism, we must save the planet will always be used to justify this.
We must live with less they say while they live everything they choose, the delusion is strong with this lot.

 

[Drareg]

Uhm, that is over-simplified and biased.



Now this control could be done, altough less effective under other systems like capitalism aswell so that isn't akin or "aka" marxism.



People trowh the words communism and marxism at everything bad/evil, because to them, thoose ideologies are fundamentally wrong/bad in their opinion which i totally disagree with. You'll find that in any "system" the oligarchy is the issue.

This is no thread to discuss marxism and i've no intention to discuss it here further, however incase you would like to know, i see the criticism against capitalism from a marxist perspective as valid. That does not mean i endorse or advocate either of thoose ideologies. Socialism has never been pulled off well but for the same reasons why capitalism and private ownership in this system sucks too.

Anyhow, i woudln't call dictatorship or totalitarianism trough digital, economic control - marxism.

Marx is highlighting natural human behavior essentially, this is why he was confident the hoarding of resources by the ruling class would backfire, the problem with this is his perceptions were of humans who were not heavily medicated or persistently poisoned, this means it could go either way at this point, the fake woke left rampant in society are heavily medicated and clearly psychotic, they are incoherent and prone to erratic behavior.

Peat predicted this years ago, he said society was becoming increasingly psychopathic and highly serotonergic.

 

[Lollipop2]

The end goal of the one world government is the introduction of a digital currency and digital ID, plus abolishment of a cash economy and private property. Total economic control aka Marxism. Sweden is trying to abolish cash for over 30 years and Switzerland has legislation on the books that would allow for a quick transition to a digital currency. This is why these countries were allowed to skip lockdown and Covid nonsense. Denmark politicians have probably signed the capitulation and are allowed to stop the lockdown. The end goal of lockdowns is to cause economic breakdown that will make the masses embrace expropriation inexchange for socialist welfare or cause civil unrest that will justify martial law.

+1 Not going with the “Marxism” label, but what you have described is accurate.

 

[Michael Mohn]

+1 Not going with the “Marxism” label, but what you have described is accurate.

 

[Risingfire]

Uhm, that is over-simplified and biased.



Now this control could be done, altough less effective under other systems like capitalism aswell so that isn't akin or "aka" marxism.



People trowh the words communism and marxism at everything bad/evil, because to them, thoose ideologies are fundamentally wrong/bad in their opinion which i totally disagree with. You'll find that in any "system" the oligarchy is the issue.

This is no thread to discuss marxism and i've no intention to discuss it here further, however incase you would like to know, i see the criticism against capitalism from a marxist perspective as valid. That does not mean i endorse or advocate either of thoose ideologies. Socialism has never been pulled off well but for the same reasons why capitalism and private ownership in this system sucks too.

Anyhow, i woudln't call dictatorship or totalitarianism trough digital, economic control - marxism.

You seem to have a flowery view of marxism. IF ONLY THEY DID THIS IT WOULD HAVE WORKED.... It will never work as they always turn into totalitarianism

 

[Saba]

You seem to have a flowery view of marxism. IF ONLY THEY DID THIS IT WOULD HAVE WORKED.... It will never work as they always turn into totalitarianism

+1 Here is a good story for a laugh:

Dear comrades... you're fired! Boss of socialist magazine Current Affairs got rid of majority of the staff 'when they tried to start a worker co-op' as he admits sharing power is easy to do in theory but hard in practice​

Socialist magazine boss fires staff who tried to start a worker co-op

 

[Ben.]

You seem to have a flowery view of marxism. IF ONLY THEY DID THIS IT WOULD HAVE WORKED.... It will never work as they always turn into totalitarianism

You reading this into what i wrote just means you missunderstood what i said. Way to go.

 

[Nighteyes]

The government just announced today that Covid-19 is no longer to be considered a “disease critical to society” meaning that all restrictions will be removed already by september 10th. This is really good news and the first step towards those in charge accepting covid as a disease which is here to stay along with flu etc.
the key argument for the above is the low burden for the health care system currently. There simply isn’t any argument to keep restrictions in place. Man have I been waiting for the government to realize this...

 

[Drareg]

The government just announced today that Covid-19 is no longer to be considered a “disease critical to society” meaning that all restrictions will be removed already by september 10th. This is really good news and the first step towards those in charge accepting covid as a disease which is here to stay along with flu etc.
the key argument for the above is the low burden for the health care system currently. There simply isn’t any argument to keep restrictions in place. Man have I been waiting for the government to realize this...

But,but the delta variant!! They will all die. What will the covid cult do for meaning once all this is buried? They will probably subscribe to the coming mass propaganda movies on Netflix to portray western leaders as hero’s during covid, make sure to down vote said movies relentlessly on imbd and rotten tomatoes, we already know the bought critics will rate them in the 90’s.

Still though they have climate doomsday narratives to look forward to now, with religion on the decline the ruling class frame everything like a biblical story, easy for the plebs to grasp, good guy/bad guy, death/life etc

 

[Sefton10]

They are crediting the high level of vaccination as their reasoning though...

Denmark to lift all remaining Covid restrictions on 10 September

Health ministry says high level of vaccination means virus ‘no longer a critical threat to society’

www.theguardian.com

 

[PolishSun]

masks and vaccines do not work anywhere, so it will be the same everywhere in the end. All what they can win is time and few more vaccinated people, maybe few more sales for few billions euros.

 

[Nighteyes]

They are crediting the high level of vaccination as their reasoning though...

Denmark to lift all remaining Covid restrictions on 10 September

Health ministry says high level of vaccination means virus ‘no longer a critical threat to society’

www.theguardian.com

Yes it seems critical thinking is a rare trait here sadly.. it really has become an “expert society” where poeple dont question anything that isn’t their own area of expertise. In their defense, life is much simpler when you dont have to know or research anything. Someone else makes your decisions

 

[Drareg]

They are crediting the high level of vaccination as their reasoning though...

Denmark to lift all remaining Covid restrictions on 10 September

Health ministry says high level of vaccination means virus ‘no longer a critical threat to society’

www.theguardian.com

Other nations have vaccinated in a similar fashion and still have issues, they have had enough, claiming it’s the vaccine is to counter global media hysterics about them opening back up.

Science | AAAS

www.sciencemag.org

"The natural immune protection that develops after a SARS-CoV-2 infection offers considerably more of a shield against the Delta variant of the pandemic coronavirus than two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, according to a large Israeli study that some scientists wish came with a “Don’t try this at home” label. The newly released data show people who once had a SARS-CoV-2 infection were much less likely than never-infected, vaccinated people to get Delta, develop symptoms from it, or become hospitalized with serious COVID-19".

 

[blob69]

@Nighteyes, you are from Denmark, right? Is it true that 90% of Danish population above 13 yrs old is vaccinated against covid-19? It's what I hear in our news and I can hardly believe it. Are people really that obedient and unquestioning there?

Someone also told me recently that they watched a video where a Danish woman claimed that it's not true that measures in DK were lifted due to a high vaccination rate, but because people protested by not using any services for a week or so and the government was forced to lift measures. Sounds very unlikely to me, especially given that so many people got the vaccine - why would they protest if they trust the medical authorities so much that they all get vaccinated?

 

[Nighteyes]

@Nighteyes, you are from Denmark, right? Is it true that 90% of Danish population above 13 yrs old is vaccinated against covid-19? It's what I hear in our news and I can hardly believe it. Are people really that obedient and unquestioning there?

Someone also told me recently that they watched a video where a Danish woman claimed that it's not true that measures in DK were lifted due to a high vaccination rate, but because people protested by not using any services for a week or so and the government was forced to lift measures. Sounds very unlikely to me, especially given that so many people got the vaccine - why would they protest if they trust the medical authorities so much that they all get vaccinated?

Around 75% of all people are fully vaccinated. Perhaps if you look only at >13 years it is higher.. it is way too high in any case if you ask me. But yeah the main reason for dropping all restrictions is the high compliance as well as low number of cases and hospitalizations. The government could no longer prolong the status for covid as “disease critical for society” as they had no argument to do so. And so they had to drop all restrictions.

I think the second part is wrong, as I have not heard of such a thing happening. Most people seem to gladly go along with whatever the government tells them. There have been some protests but nothing too ground breaking. If the restrictions had been kept in place however, I think there would have been a backlash as people exptected them to be dropped as part of the deal of taking the vaccine.

 

[Drareg]

Denmark, Sweden and Norway are all done with the covid narrative it seems, vaccine passports are no longer required.
Astoundingly the rest of the west are still playing along with this fraudulent crap, they will still look to continue killing people with intubation this winter, Norway intends to treat covid like the flu, it was always the flu with intubation and neglect of the elderly, through in some portent sedatives for the elderly also and up goes the death rate, something tells me the ruling class were hoping for more deaths but the virus just wasn’t strong enough, they had all their eggs in the genetic determinism basket,clowns.