BigPapaChakra
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Just wanted to post about something that some of the awesome people at this forum may find interesting. I recently came across molecular hydrogen via an online acquaintance. Molecular hydrogen can be used as a medical gas, a saline, put into drinking water, etc. It has some amazing effects, and some of them seemed Peaty. So, I decided to send Dr. Peat some information. I'll post our email correspondence below, in addition to some other information:
"Hey there Dr. Peat, hope you're doing well! I just wanted to send some studies/sources and names of researchers your way. I've learned an incredible amount of information from your interviews and articles, in addition to our many emails, so it's only right that I send some things your way that you may find enlightening, or, at least interesting.
I have an acquaintance that does a lot of research at his local college/university, and I believe recently started working in the field of biology or bio-tech (not sure on the specifics). Anyhow, he is the person who first sent me studies from Tina Karu and others doing work with red and near-infrared lasers and LEDs for healing traumatic brain injuries.
Recently, he started speaking to Tyler LeBaron, a biochemist who is also an adjunct instructor of physiology at Brigham Young University Idaho. Tyler started investigating molecular hydrogen, and found that it actually has some really incredible effects, particularly for healing and anti-aging. When I first heard of this, I thought it was a little bizarre, but then again 2-3 years ago I wasn't even aware that we are "magneto-sensitive" organisms, primed by external factors which govern circadian rhythms, etc. and all of this can be understood and used for our own benefit.
Here are some studies that are interesting:
Drinking Hydrogen Water Ameliorated Cognitive Impairment in Senescence-Accelerated Mice. Yeunhwa Gu, Chien-Sheng Huang, [...], and Atsunori Nakao
Hydrogen-rich saline improves memory function in a rat model of amyloid-beta-induced Alzheimer's disease by reduction of oxidative stress
Jian Lia, Cai Wanga, John H. Zhangb, Jian-Mei Caic, Yun-Peng Caoa, , , Xue-Jun Sunc
Supplementation of hydrogen-rich water improves lipid and glucose metabolism in patients with type 2 diabetes or impaired glucose tolerance
Sizuo Kajiyama, Goji Hasegawaemail, Mai Asano, Hiroko Hosoda, Michiaki Fukui, Naoto Nakamura, Jo Kitawaki, Saeko Imai, Koji Nakano, Mitsuhiro Ohta, Tetsuo Adachi, Hiroshi Obayashi, Toshikazu Yoshikawa
Radioprotective effect of hydrogen in cultured cells and mice
March 2010, Vol. 44, No. 3 , Pages 275-282
Liren Qian, Fei Cao, Jianguo Cui, Yuecheng Huang, Xiaojian Zhou, Shulin Liu, and Jianming Cai
A Ofan et al 2011 Nanotechnology 22 285309 doi:10.1088/0957-4484/22/28/285309
Large-area regular nanodomain patterning in He-irradiated lithium niobate crystals
Here is Tyler's site http://www.molecularhydrogeninstitute.com/about/
Hope you find this of interest. Have a great day!"
(Dr. Peat) "Thanks, I didn't know about Tyler's thing. Have you seen my July and September newsletters? I've been warning about the dangers of antioxidative excess, i.e., reductive stress.
Do you have a copy of the Ofan, et al., article with images? ("The domain patterns were imaged by piezoresponse force microscopy and investigated by domain-selective etching in conjunction with focused ion beam etching followed by scanning electron microscopy imaging.") This behavior of crystal domains would be most meaningful in the context of Michael Polanyi's work with crystals and polymers, 1920-1926, and Alexandre Rothen's adsorption experiments, in the 1960s and '70s.
http://www.molecularhydrogeninstitute.com/core-information/orp-meters-principles-and-misconceptions/ Tyler's discussion of pH and redox is better than nearly all the stuff on the internet, including the pages of the big companies that sell the instruments (which are mostly misleading junk). Where are the references for that page? I'm curious about reference 15 (for the sentence "Cells have their voltage....")."
I proceeded to tell him more, and told him I'd look into finding those resources through my acquaintance. He was then generous enough to send me some of his recent newsletters, which corroborates with some of what Tyler discusses on his site.
A few people at this longecity thread (http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/63 ... ts/page-68) have started experimenting with hydrogen water. The machines that truly make it are roughly $900, but someone found that in one study the researchers included how it was made, by using elemental magnesium rods. Some people at the forum have been experimenting with using this method, which if proven effective, would make H2 water possible to consume for under $100. One person uses the device that I think Tyler recommends, and has said this, "The science looks extremely promising and my experience so far (my generator arrived on Thur) has been very good. I would describe it as a very pure sense of mental clarity. I don't feel stimulated or energized per se, but just clear. I'm pretty excited to see what this stuff is like over the next couple of weeks. (...) I'm coming up on two weeks now with the generator and I am really liking this stuff. I'm drinking about 2L per day and I feel very clear headed. I'm currently trying out different waters with it to see if I notice any differences. I'll keep you guys updated." I then asked for some elaborations, and he stated, "2. I used 'clearheaded' to distinguish it from 'stimulatory'. It's not really stimulating at all. The best way to describe it for me is 'removal of impedances' or 'complete lack of brain fog'. It is as though I have extremely quick and complete access to everything in my head. So...it is somewhat similar to LLLT in that regard. I haven't noticed an increase in mental endurance like I get with LLLT (but, of course, I'm still using LLLT so confounders abound. ha). I would (very) tentatively say improved mood and slightly less need for sleep but I'll have to get back to you on that."
Interestingly, there are many studies on all different forms of molecular hydrogen. The people in that forum thread have just started using it in water, but I suspect that a combination of methods of administration - water, transdermal, saline in the eyes/nose, produced by gut bacteria, etc - would prove most effective. From some of the studies, it seems as though it would have a very significant synergy with light; light, even red and infrared, drastically increases ROS production. This is good, but too much can cause seemingly negative effects, hence why many of the studies on transcranial and intranasal LLLT show a biphasic dose response curve. H2 appears to largely, potentially even completely, protect healthy cells from excess ROS. Meaning, one could, in theory, increase their 'dose' of light, yet not overwhelm their cells. It also prevents a variety of different forms of excitotoxicity, degeneration, and more. Later I'll post about a spice that I discussed on the facebook groups and how it is in fact rather Peaty, despite it being seemingly not Peaty at first glance, and how it actually promotes H2 production which, when produced in the gut, may have implications for schizophrenia and similar disorders, and even increasing intelligence. Hopefully this wasn't too large of a post :?
"Hey there Dr. Peat, hope you're doing well! I just wanted to send some studies/sources and names of researchers your way. I've learned an incredible amount of information from your interviews and articles, in addition to our many emails, so it's only right that I send some things your way that you may find enlightening, or, at least interesting.
I have an acquaintance that does a lot of research at his local college/university, and I believe recently started working in the field of biology or bio-tech (not sure on the specifics). Anyhow, he is the person who first sent me studies from Tina Karu and others doing work with red and near-infrared lasers and LEDs for healing traumatic brain injuries.
Recently, he started speaking to Tyler LeBaron, a biochemist who is also an adjunct instructor of physiology at Brigham Young University Idaho. Tyler started investigating molecular hydrogen, and found that it actually has some really incredible effects, particularly for healing and anti-aging. When I first heard of this, I thought it was a little bizarre, but then again 2-3 years ago I wasn't even aware that we are "magneto-sensitive" organisms, primed by external factors which govern circadian rhythms, etc. and all of this can be understood and used for our own benefit.
Here are some studies that are interesting:
Drinking Hydrogen Water Ameliorated Cognitive Impairment in Senescence-Accelerated Mice. Yeunhwa Gu, Chien-Sheng Huang, [...], and Atsunori Nakao
Hydrogen-rich saline improves memory function in a rat model of amyloid-beta-induced Alzheimer's disease by reduction of oxidative stress
Jian Lia, Cai Wanga, John H. Zhangb, Jian-Mei Caic, Yun-Peng Caoa, , , Xue-Jun Sunc
Supplementation of hydrogen-rich water improves lipid and glucose metabolism in patients with type 2 diabetes or impaired glucose tolerance
Sizuo Kajiyama, Goji Hasegawaemail, Mai Asano, Hiroko Hosoda, Michiaki Fukui, Naoto Nakamura, Jo Kitawaki, Saeko Imai, Koji Nakano, Mitsuhiro Ohta, Tetsuo Adachi, Hiroshi Obayashi, Toshikazu Yoshikawa
Radioprotective effect of hydrogen in cultured cells and mice
March 2010, Vol. 44, No. 3 , Pages 275-282
Liren Qian, Fei Cao, Jianguo Cui, Yuecheng Huang, Xiaojian Zhou, Shulin Liu, and Jianming Cai
A Ofan et al 2011 Nanotechnology 22 285309 doi:10.1088/0957-4484/22/28/285309
Large-area regular nanodomain patterning in He-irradiated lithium niobate crystals
Here is Tyler's site http://www.molecularhydrogeninstitute.com/about/
Hope you find this of interest. Have a great day!"
(Dr. Peat) "Thanks, I didn't know about Tyler's thing. Have you seen my July and September newsletters? I've been warning about the dangers of antioxidative excess, i.e., reductive stress.
Do you have a copy of the Ofan, et al., article with images? ("The domain patterns were imaged by piezoresponse force microscopy and investigated by domain-selective etching in conjunction with focused ion beam etching followed by scanning electron microscopy imaging.") This behavior of crystal domains would be most meaningful in the context of Michael Polanyi's work with crystals and polymers, 1920-1926, and Alexandre Rothen's adsorption experiments, in the 1960s and '70s.
http://www.molecularhydrogeninstitute.com/core-information/orp-meters-principles-and-misconceptions/ Tyler's discussion of pH and redox is better than nearly all the stuff on the internet, including the pages of the big companies that sell the instruments (which are mostly misleading junk). Where are the references for that page? I'm curious about reference 15 (for the sentence "Cells have their voltage....")."
I proceeded to tell him more, and told him I'd look into finding those resources through my acquaintance. He was then generous enough to send me some of his recent newsletters, which corroborates with some of what Tyler discusses on his site.
A few people at this longecity thread (http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/63 ... ts/page-68) have started experimenting with hydrogen water. The machines that truly make it are roughly $900, but someone found that in one study the researchers included how it was made, by using elemental magnesium rods. Some people at the forum have been experimenting with using this method, which if proven effective, would make H2 water possible to consume for under $100. One person uses the device that I think Tyler recommends, and has said this, "The science looks extremely promising and my experience so far (my generator arrived on Thur) has been very good. I would describe it as a very pure sense of mental clarity. I don't feel stimulated or energized per se, but just clear. I'm pretty excited to see what this stuff is like over the next couple of weeks. (...) I'm coming up on two weeks now with the generator and I am really liking this stuff. I'm drinking about 2L per day and I feel very clear headed. I'm currently trying out different waters with it to see if I notice any differences. I'll keep you guys updated." I then asked for some elaborations, and he stated, "2. I used 'clearheaded' to distinguish it from 'stimulatory'. It's not really stimulating at all. The best way to describe it for me is 'removal of impedances' or 'complete lack of brain fog'. It is as though I have extremely quick and complete access to everything in my head. So...it is somewhat similar to LLLT in that regard. I haven't noticed an increase in mental endurance like I get with LLLT (but, of course, I'm still using LLLT so confounders abound. ha). I would (very) tentatively say improved mood and slightly less need for sleep but I'll have to get back to you on that."
Interestingly, there are many studies on all different forms of molecular hydrogen. The people in that forum thread have just started using it in water, but I suspect that a combination of methods of administration - water, transdermal, saline in the eyes/nose, produced by gut bacteria, etc - would prove most effective. From some of the studies, it seems as though it would have a very significant synergy with light; light, even red and infrared, drastically increases ROS production. This is good, but too much can cause seemingly negative effects, hence why many of the studies on transcranial and intranasal LLLT show a biphasic dose response curve. H2 appears to largely, potentially even completely, protect healthy cells from excess ROS. Meaning, one could, in theory, increase their 'dose' of light, yet not overwhelm their cells. It also prevents a variety of different forms of excitotoxicity, degeneration, and more. Later I'll post about a spice that I discussed on the facebook groups and how it is in fact rather Peaty, despite it being seemingly not Peaty at first glance, and how it actually promotes H2 production which, when produced in the gut, may have implications for schizophrenia and similar disorders, and even increasing intelligence. Hopefully this wasn't too large of a post :?