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PeatFeat said:Dutchie,
It seems to me like you may be suffering from some form of "adult selective eating" (google it). I feel like most of us on this forum have suffered from some degree of this in our quest towards health. My concern is that your obsession with food and health is actually making you unhealthy. Restricting yourself of entire food groups can lead to deficiencies over time. Also, if you feel guilty when you do eat something "unhealthy" it can have a worse effect on your health than the food actually does. After reading your posts, I fear your problems are more psychological than physical. One thing I've learned is the internet can be a dangerous place and it's important not to go overboard on some of the information floating around. The most important skill we can have is learning to listen to the feedback from our body instead of aimlessly following all of the dogmatic ideologies about food and health being spread around. Food is a very important part of health but there are many more factors as well.
WilltoBelieve said:Dutchie said:
I had to confront myself, at one point I had to accept that I was becoming fat...
(actually, after I started my own farm I just started becoming so fat and sick... I took extreme measures and almost killed myself trying not to die... at one point I fasted for 30 days with just water.... well, free fatty acids aside, I won't judge it as wrong, but I sure wouldn't advise it to anyone ever.)
My options were running out... so much exercise and starvation, my face was getting strange red blotches on it, and my bones were just terrible. I felt at that point that if I put weight on my left leg it would just break my hip bone right off and come apart.
Wow... it was a scary time for me.
I experienced also two major pychological feelings:
When I was getting fat, and I was eating lots of animal foods (too much is no good--- and if you have a bad thyroid than you have to eat almost none) I would get a strange feeling like what you mentioned - something bad is going to happen ... I also had this feeling.... like a lion was following me and going to eat me for dinner, like death was following me...
My one friend was so brilliant, yet he believed the doctors who told him everything will be ok, and he didn't sense any danger, or the fact that while our culture and the media gives us a sense of security it is actually quite deceptive (we can stop at paranoia, yet avoid being naive). I was watching his pictures on facebook, at the same time as I was dealing with my own worst life experiences... Dead at 35... The pictures showed it coming right before everyone's eyes. But the doctors said "don't worry you're fine...." so he didn't "worry".
Many things that Ray Peat has pointed out take a good deal of time to understand...
I had to think about some articles for months before I could really understand and make sense out of it.
This is what I'm trying to say: value your life so much that you will do whatever it takes to preserve it and improve it. People who have easy lives and no problems won't understand you... but never mind them.
If you have a lead and a hope then try it!
Here's my lead:
If you can, get a soda siphon, a co2 cartridge, and some balloons get a quick help before you sort out all the other issues.
Get good fruit.
Get some Vitamin D (not cod liver oil) and use it.
Get some Jarlsberg cheese from a health food store.
Get some buckwheat groats if you need a grain... otherwise get sweet potatoes or regular potatoes... like you'll read about here.
Go outside as much as possible and do easy outside work, or walk around (easy- no stress, no lactate buildup)
AS for me I need a grain that's where I differ here.... I can't eat wheat barley and rye... rice has no vitamins... oats are a little heavy for me to eat regularly... so I eat buckwheat pancakes (buckwheat, water, salt)...
If you eat cheese for a few days and not meat, your body can clear out excess ammonia and get relief from serotonin overload, etc.
Or if that's not for you, than try another lead.
What I want to say is : what you think is right... by all your effort, striving, thinking and feeling... do it. And if you think you should do nothing, then do nothing. But then really just do nothing so well and strongly that you get quickly tired of it and move on to the action.
The hard part: if you think you've "tried everything" then just try something else, gotta keep trying things, (that's what I meant about will power to try again after many failures: now that's where you're probably at---- thinking you've tried everything, so you will now have to try everything else.... and if you still haven't succeeded, then you'll have to try the rest after that, etc.)
Okay... enough sermonizing...
Just make sure you stay alive and don't go have a stroke or something...
Also: There's room for bald men in this world...
So there's room for a few hairy women too, no problem.
Okay whatever is written is written here goes the submit button. No offense, I only mean well.
kettlebell said:Discipline: Doing what you need to do when you need to do it regardless of your mental state.
Start practicing discipline as many others around here do. We all falter and have bad moments but we pick ourselves back up, refocus and crack on. You will find you will falter less and less.
Dutchie said:How does sugar help with discipline?
I've been a hard selfdisciplinarian my entire life,which also tired me out. What I actually always struggle with is finding and maintaining balance in everything
...right after breakfast and lunch, your chances of getting paroled were at their highest. On average, the judges granted parole to around 60 percent of prisoners right after the judge had eaten a meal. The rate of approval crept down after that. Right before a meal, the judges granted parole to about 20 percent of those appearing before them. The less glucose in judges’ bodies, the less willing they were to make the active choice of setting a person free and accepting the consequences and the more likely they were to go with the passive choice to put the fate of the prisoner off until a future date.
The glucose correlation is made stronger by another study by Baumeister in 2007 in which he had people watch a silent video of a woman talking while words flashed in the lower right-hand corner. The subjects’ task was to try as best they could to ignore the words. The scientists tested blood glucose levels before and after the video and compared them to a control group who watched the video without special instructions. Sure enough, the people who avoided the words had lower blood glucose levels after the video than the control group.
kiran said:Dutchie said:How does sugar help with discipline?
I've been a hard selfdisciplinarian my entire life,which also tired me out. What I actually always struggle with is finding and maintaining balance in everything
Have you heard of ego depletion?
That's the idea that willpower is a finite resource.
http://youarenotsosmart.com/2012/04/17/ego-depletion/
...right after breakfast and lunch, your chances of getting paroled were at their highest. On average, the judges granted parole to around 60 percent of prisoners right after the judge had eaten a meal. The rate of approval crept down after that. Right before a meal, the judges granted parole to about 20 percent of those appearing before them. The less glucose in judges’ bodies, the less willing they were to make the active choice of setting a person free and accepting the consequences and the more likely they were to go with the passive choice to put the fate of the prisoner off until a future date.
The glucose correlation is made stronger by another study by Baumeister in 2007 in which he had people watch a silent video of a woman talking while words flashed in the lower right-hand corner. The subjects’ task was to try as best they could to ignore the words. The scientists tested blood glucose levels before and after the video and compared them to a control group who watched the video without special instructions. Sure enough, the people who avoided the words had lower blood glucose levels after the video than the control group.
Dutchie said:It says glucose,which don't necessarily have to mean sugar but can be just some form of carb....:)
kiran said:Dutchie said:It says glucose,which don't necessarily have to mean sugar but can be just some form of carb....:)
ofc, but sugar works the best.
Dutchie said:kiran said:Dutchie said:It says glucose,which don't necessarily have to mean sugar but can be just some form of carb....:)
ofc, but sugar works the best.
I'm still on the fence if sugar is that good for me.....though it might be different if I'd actually got my act together/dare to face my fears&anxiety and started making&eating homemade meals at home.....and at least use a type of sugar with some nutrients still left in it,like coconut/palmsugar.....