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I'd say 7 is about the cut off as to when children start becoming more of a slow oxidizer, my son probably later lol, he was a very fast oxidizer at 5 on his hair test, and it's taken a number of more yrs for him to calm down. But I have not had him tested again. I do wonder what the Masai's hair test would look like! It's very hard to say with such different environment and diet.
This is what makes it such a challenge, we all have different backgrounds, diets, epigenetics, stresses and the list will keep going on. I think what works for one person might not work for another so continuous experimentation is required. Hence my queries on this different approach,
An easy way to see if a lower calcium diet could work for you is to get a hair mineral test. It shows what we clearly are getting too much of. Or what is coming into the bloodstream too much which can be from too much vitamin A as well, calcium raises with vitamin A.
It is probably a good idea, it would be better I think than a blood test as that only gives a snapshot a mere moment in time. The hair analysis would give a longer term result and average.
I used TEI, I think others were washing the hair? I think it was the best at the time. I think it is extracellular, so high calcium can be a sign of something causing it to come out such as vitamin A.
Would high extracellular calcium not be a very positive indicator as like sodium in a low stresses state it place is outside the cell?
Dietary calcium doesn't usually influence hair calcium much, if at all, as cellular content of the macrominerals is pretty tightly regulated by the body. Unfortunately this is exactly how a hair test should not be interpreted because it will lead you to make wrong conclusions. The same approach has often been used to discredit HTMA because it doesn't work. Hair always reflects the state of metabolism more than the quantity of mineral reserves or intake.
Ok, thanks for clarifying, I figured since kids in fast oxidization benefit from more calcium I figured it could be the opposite for those in slow oxidation. And I think so many doing badly on high calcium diets shows this?
Thanks for that @TheSir. So to clarify my understanding the hair test indicates what a person metabolized the most, so testing high on calcium would be a positive sign?
At least in Wilson's system Calcium and magnesium are usually given to everyone regardless of their oxidation type because above optimal levels of these minerals tend to signify lack of bioavailability. I don't know if people do poorly or well on high calcium diets.
It indicates cellular content for the most part which in turn reflects the state of the body. The closer Ca is to its optimal level at ~40%mcg, and the closer its ratio with magnesium is to ~6.67, the better. Going above or below these will result in compromised energy levels that worsen the more pronounced the deviation gets.
I have. Although i am only 3-4 months into the diet. I also did blodwork almost every 2-4 weeks over the past 3 years. So we have a baseline to compare with.
I was on a high calcium diet when my hair test said high calcium. So that is why I figured it might be better not to give someone in slow oxidization a lot of calcium.
Anything is possible. My guess is that there is something else in addition to just high dietary intake that is resulting in high cellular Ca with the diet. Eating too many carbs will elevate Ca too, which you probably knew already.
Yes I was on a high sugar diet then. So I guess Peat is right if you want to be on a high sugar diet you need calcium because it's going to be coming out all the time.
Exactly.
Yeah that's what I was saying.
