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Thanks Charlie. I misremembered as well.
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kettlebell said:Thats why things like aspirin, vitamin E etc can be so important (If used correctly) potentially for many years while the body slowly gets rid of the PUFA. Those plus everything else Peat all go a long way to stopping the inflammation/suppression while you get rid of the PUFA so how long it takes becomes to an extent irrelevant as you are hindering the inflammation/suppression.
narouz said:Yes, great post, kettlebell!
Thanks.
One thing on the role of E.
It seems you're conceiving of it mainly as blocker or mitigater
of PUFA which is being immediately consumed.
I think I have not been as mindful of that role
(which it seems is real as backed up by Peat's quotes about restaurant eating)
as I should have been.
Instead, I was thinking of E as more of a thing
that kept stored PUFA from being released into the bloodstream
thence to wreak havoc....
Do you understand E as having both of those functions?
I guess I should add that I'm a tad wary of going too far with the
Vitamin E as Blocker of Consumed PUFA idea.
Maybe because it sounds too good to be true...?
I mean, if one see it that way,
why not have a daily PUFA binge--
all negated by a walloping dose of Vitamin E beforehand.
Avocadoes and Pork Butt Roast here I come!
How do you see that wrinkle?
When would such doses be recommended? I'd be more motivated to test larger amounts if I know it has more than a temporary effect.
narouz said:Here is that cool bit supplied by nwo2012 I mentioned above:
nwo2012 said:I asked Ray a while back about this. His answer says all I needed to know.
RP
Thyroid and sugar help the liver to detoxify them by glucuronidation, without having to oxidize them.
PeatFeat said:narouz said:Here is that cool bit supplied by nwo2012 I mentioned above:
nwo2012 said:I asked Ray a while back about this. His answer says all I needed to know.
RP
Thyroid and sugar help the liver to detoxify them by glucuronidation, without having to oxidize them.
I have read that aspirin is an inhibitor of Glucuronidation:
http://tuberose.com/Liver_Detoxification.html (it's about halfway down)
jyb said:PeatFeat said:narouz said:Here is that cool bit supplied by nwo2012 I mentioned above:
nwo2012 said:I asked Ray a while back about this. His answer says all I needed to know.
RP
Thyroid and sugar help the liver to detoxify them by glucuronidation, without having to oxidize them.
I have read that aspirin is an inhibitor of Glucuronidation:
http://tuberose.com/Liver_Detoxification.html (it's about halfway down)
Interesting comment. Anyone here can comment or explain why this is inhibition by aspirin is not a problem (I assume its not)?
Ray Peat said:Unsaturated oils, especially polyunsaturates, weaken the immune system's function in ways that are similar to the damage caused by radiation, hormone imbalance, cancer, aging, or viral infections.
Ray Peat said:All systems of the body are harmed by an excess of these oils. There are three main kinds of damage: one, hormonal imbalances, two, damage to the immune system, and three, oxidative damage.
Ray Peat said:Vegetable oil is recognized as a drug for knocking out the immune system. Vegetable oil emulsions were used to nourish cancer patients, but it was discovered that the unsaturated oils were suppressing their immune systems. The same products, in which vegetable oil is emulsified with water for intravenous injection, are now marketed specifically for the purpose of suppressing immunity in patients who have had organ transplants. Using the oils in foods has the same harmful effect on the immune system. [E. A. Mascioli, et al.,Lipids 22(6) 421, 1987.] Unsaturated fats directly kill white blood cells. [C. J. Meade and J. Martin, Adv. Lipid Res., 127, 1978.]