anabolicduckfat
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Greetings from Germany,
I am posting this thread to ask for help for several conditions that set on in a sudden manner after being infected with COVID in July 2022.
My condition right now can be described as the following:
- burning sensation in the fronthead / tingling
- Anxiousness / panic attacks
- OCD (intrusive thoughts, irrational thinking, panic)
- Depression following anxiety
- Depersonalization / derealization
- low Willpower
- brain fog
- concentration issues
- depending on my state absolutely no stress resilience
- Tremors and muscle spasms
- Fatigue or hypomania
- digestive issues (I can't tolerate starches or some forms of carbs; bloating; cramping)
These symptoms came after I have been infected with Covid in July 2022. I was on a trip to Iceland and was camping (cold weather) / using hotels when the fevers etc. started. The infection went flu-like, but on the 5th or 6th day of the infection (no fever anymore, just crazy fatigue) I started getting a feeling of impending doom that lasted no matter what I did. It went on for week. The curious thing about it is that it started after a 30 min nap in the car after I took some supplements, especially Niacin 500mg flush. I also had a lot of emotional distress during that time.
This ***t kept on going since then, 180 degree turnover of my life before. When the panic wore off, I had severe depressive episodes that lead to more panic attacks and in the end to depersonalization and OCD. This OCD stuff happened actually in October 2022, right after a "regular" flu. So there must be a connection with the pathogen or something else.
Interestingly enough, I had similar random bouts of sickness in March of 2020. Back then, I also had emotional distress (GF left me, master thesis for electrical engineering). High physical activity, first time trying keto "just for the lulz" because people told me it's cool and you think faster. After i stopped keto, simultaneously my GF left me and from one day to the other, my lung started to have severe asthmatic attacks that made me think I'm about to die. Went to several ERs, docs checked my whole lung and everything and said I had minor lung sensitivity or something like that (FeNo-Testing). Interestingly enough, I could run 10km with no effort in like 40-45 minutes while being highly muscular. So I didn't think it was a functional issue?
But this stuff went on and was also inducing a lot of stress. I think the stress lead to neurological symptoms (vision blur, depersonalization, tremors, temperature irregularities, chronic fatigue). Also had really sick heart palpitations (in August 2020 I woke up due to my heart rate being at 200 bpm, I measured it immediately since I had pulseoxymeter lying in my bed just in case). Went to ER, nothing. No structural issues with heart or whatsoever. I was stationary in the neurological department for 1 week and they did a MRI scan, spinal tap, EEG etc pp (every diagnostics they had) with no result. Everything is normal. I also had crazy GERD and had to take PPIs, that barely did anything. When the GERD went away, I had chronic inflamed throat and thought my condition would result from silent reflux (pepsin-gas rising to places it shouldn't go due to dysfunctional sphincter).
The lung issue actually got pretty good and almost gone. I couldn't breath normally for like 2 years, always having had clogged and inflamed lungs. It got worse when I went to sleep and it got to a degree where I sometimes woke up gasping for air. It also was kind of neurologically intertwined with the vagus nerve I guess - because sometimes I just "forgot" to breath when I went into sleep mode. So after 2-3 min of no breathing my body sent out hits of adrenaline that woke me up. But it went away somehow. It isn't one of my major struggles today.
The main issue is the mood stuff above. I can deal with all the bodily bull**** my body throws at me, but the anxiety, OCD and depression really **** me up. Also high cortisol always and the ups and downs from that.
I've tested so far the following:
- alcohol (don't laugh, it was the only thing that helped me in the first weeks of having to deal with this BS but made things obviously worse)
- oregano oil capsules
- magnesium high dose (500-1500mg) daily (bisglycinate, threonate)
- zink high dose (bisglycinate, up to 75-100mg)
- boron
- selenium
- "healing" funghi (reishi, lions mane, cordyceps)
- nicotine (snus, nicotine pouches), 42mg per pouch, 5-6 times a day for 20-30min --> this is a big topic! Sometimes nicotine makes me very calm and focussed, but most of the time (I'm addicted) it makes me more jittery and anxious! Also sort of blocks me from feeling my body in a sense. When I stop using it (did for some months), the first day I have severe brain fog and then tend to feel more, but more aggressive and less calm)
- vitamin E mixed tocopherols
- vitamin K1, K2
- vitamin D 5000-10000 IU
- rhodiola rosea
- artemisia annua / artemisinin
- L-lysine 3g
- Taurine 5g
- creatine 5g
- vitamin C high dose 3-5g
- ALCAR 1-2g
- NAC 3-4g
- L-theanine 3g
- quercetin 2g
- iodine
- glycine (made me nauseous at 2-3 tbsp)
- L-phenylalanine
- Q10
- Probiotics (several different strands)
- Triphala
- Valerian
- Digestive Enzymes
- R-alpha-lipoic-acid
- Sulforaphan
- Aspirin
- physical activity
- melatonin
There are some thing that tend to help somehow:
- strict keto with high blood ketone level somehow made me more calm, but in the afternoon I felt depressed anyway (not in a common sense of being sad but having some kind of internal pain and feeling whiny)
- vitamin B1 high dose thiamine hydrochloride (2g) + random B-complex from OTC shop
- ashwagandha since it literally just shuts down my feelings
- Aspirin makes me almost "normal" but not always
The rest somehow "helped" but not really as to really make me feel normal again.
So there are several theories regarding this. One theory says that the spike protein seemingly crossed BBB and wreaked havoc on some of the brain areas responsible for emotional stuff and neurological stuff.
Another theory says it reactivated dormant viruses (I have some past infections with mycoplasma pneumiae and lung chlamydia, HHV, HPV, EBV). I have an ongoing HPV infection in genital area since 2 months actually (warts).
RP and haidut say, that stuff like that is related to high serotonin, lactic acid and PUFAs. I don't eat PUFAs since years, mostly saturated fats if I can. I only started keto again due to one MD (Chris Palmer) and his book "Brain Energy".
There is also a theory of a hijacked tryptophane metabolism (metabolic trap) that pretty much alters the kynurenine pathway of tryptophan and has to do with platelet serotonin release. Serotonin high --> immune system regulates serotonin down --> issues --> rebound.
High serotonin also favors viral activity afaik.
High viral activity damages vagus nerve and (brain) mitochondria.
Also this would explain why I feel better on fats than carbs (hijacked tryptophane metabolism).
The other theory says its all psycholocial childhood trauma stuff (I indeed had a somehow traumatic childhood, nothing special except divorce and loneliness).
I know that this is probably a complex condition with several things to consider. Psychological, behavioural remedies and biological root issues.
Where do you start in this mess? What diagnostics are to be used?
My next step would be a ERP-therapy for the OCD.
I am posting this thread to ask for help for several conditions that set on in a sudden manner after being infected with COVID in July 2022.
My condition right now can be described as the following:
- burning sensation in the fronthead / tingling
- Anxiousness / panic attacks
- OCD (intrusive thoughts, irrational thinking, panic)
- Depression following anxiety
- Depersonalization / derealization
- low Willpower
- brain fog
- concentration issues
- depending on my state absolutely no stress resilience
- Tremors and muscle spasms
- Fatigue or hypomania
- digestive issues (I can't tolerate starches or some forms of carbs; bloating; cramping)
These symptoms came after I have been infected with Covid in July 2022. I was on a trip to Iceland and was camping (cold weather) / using hotels when the fevers etc. started. The infection went flu-like, but on the 5th or 6th day of the infection (no fever anymore, just crazy fatigue) I started getting a feeling of impending doom that lasted no matter what I did. It went on for week. The curious thing about it is that it started after a 30 min nap in the car after I took some supplements, especially Niacin 500mg flush. I also had a lot of emotional distress during that time.
This ***t kept on going since then, 180 degree turnover of my life before. When the panic wore off, I had severe depressive episodes that lead to more panic attacks and in the end to depersonalization and OCD. This OCD stuff happened actually in October 2022, right after a "regular" flu. So there must be a connection with the pathogen or something else.
Interestingly enough, I had similar random bouts of sickness in March of 2020. Back then, I also had emotional distress (GF left me, master thesis for electrical engineering). High physical activity, first time trying keto "just for the lulz" because people told me it's cool and you think faster. After i stopped keto, simultaneously my GF left me and from one day to the other, my lung started to have severe asthmatic attacks that made me think I'm about to die. Went to several ERs, docs checked my whole lung and everything and said I had minor lung sensitivity or something like that (FeNo-Testing). Interestingly enough, I could run 10km with no effort in like 40-45 minutes while being highly muscular. So I didn't think it was a functional issue?
But this stuff went on and was also inducing a lot of stress. I think the stress lead to neurological symptoms (vision blur, depersonalization, tremors, temperature irregularities, chronic fatigue). Also had really sick heart palpitations (in August 2020 I woke up due to my heart rate being at 200 bpm, I measured it immediately since I had pulseoxymeter lying in my bed just in case). Went to ER, nothing. No structural issues with heart or whatsoever. I was stationary in the neurological department for 1 week and they did a MRI scan, spinal tap, EEG etc pp (every diagnostics they had) with no result. Everything is normal. I also had crazy GERD and had to take PPIs, that barely did anything. When the GERD went away, I had chronic inflamed throat and thought my condition would result from silent reflux (pepsin-gas rising to places it shouldn't go due to dysfunctional sphincter).
The lung issue actually got pretty good and almost gone. I couldn't breath normally for like 2 years, always having had clogged and inflamed lungs. It got worse when I went to sleep and it got to a degree where I sometimes woke up gasping for air. It also was kind of neurologically intertwined with the vagus nerve I guess - because sometimes I just "forgot" to breath when I went into sleep mode. So after 2-3 min of no breathing my body sent out hits of adrenaline that woke me up. But it went away somehow. It isn't one of my major struggles today.
The main issue is the mood stuff above. I can deal with all the bodily bull**** my body throws at me, but the anxiety, OCD and depression really **** me up. Also high cortisol always and the ups and downs from that.
I've tested so far the following:
- alcohol (don't laugh, it was the only thing that helped me in the first weeks of having to deal with this BS but made things obviously worse)
- oregano oil capsules
- magnesium high dose (500-1500mg) daily (bisglycinate, threonate)
- zink high dose (bisglycinate, up to 75-100mg)
- boron
- selenium
- "healing" funghi (reishi, lions mane, cordyceps)
- nicotine (snus, nicotine pouches), 42mg per pouch, 5-6 times a day for 20-30min --> this is a big topic! Sometimes nicotine makes me very calm and focussed, but most of the time (I'm addicted) it makes me more jittery and anxious! Also sort of blocks me from feeling my body in a sense. When I stop using it (did for some months), the first day I have severe brain fog and then tend to feel more, but more aggressive and less calm)
- vitamin E mixed tocopherols
- vitamin K1, K2
- vitamin D 5000-10000 IU
- rhodiola rosea
- artemisia annua / artemisinin
- L-lysine 3g
- Taurine 5g
- creatine 5g
- vitamin C high dose 3-5g
- ALCAR 1-2g
- NAC 3-4g
- L-theanine 3g
- quercetin 2g
- iodine
- glycine (made me nauseous at 2-3 tbsp)
- L-phenylalanine
- Q10
- Probiotics (several different strands)
- Triphala
- Valerian
- Digestive Enzymes
- R-alpha-lipoic-acid
- Sulforaphan
- Aspirin
- physical activity
- melatonin
There are some thing that tend to help somehow:
- strict keto with high blood ketone level somehow made me more calm, but in the afternoon I felt depressed anyway (not in a common sense of being sad but having some kind of internal pain and feeling whiny)
- vitamin B1 high dose thiamine hydrochloride (2g) + random B-complex from OTC shop
- ashwagandha since it literally just shuts down my feelings
- Aspirin makes me almost "normal" but not always
The rest somehow "helped" but not really as to really make me feel normal again.
So there are several theories regarding this. One theory says that the spike protein seemingly crossed BBB and wreaked havoc on some of the brain areas responsible for emotional stuff and neurological stuff.
Another theory says it reactivated dormant viruses (I have some past infections with mycoplasma pneumiae and lung chlamydia, HHV, HPV, EBV). I have an ongoing HPV infection in genital area since 2 months actually (warts).
RP and haidut say, that stuff like that is related to high serotonin, lactic acid and PUFAs. I don't eat PUFAs since years, mostly saturated fats if I can. I only started keto again due to one MD (Chris Palmer) and his book "Brain Energy".
There is also a theory of a hijacked tryptophane metabolism (metabolic trap) that pretty much alters the kynurenine pathway of tryptophan and has to do with platelet serotonin release. Serotonin high --> immune system regulates serotonin down --> issues --> rebound.
High serotonin also favors viral activity afaik.
High viral activity damages vagus nerve and (brain) mitochondria.
Also this would explain why I feel better on fats than carbs (hijacked tryptophane metabolism).
The other theory says its all psycholocial childhood trauma stuff (I indeed had a somehow traumatic childhood, nothing special except divorce and loneliness).
I know that this is probably a complex condition with several things to consider. Psychological, behavioural remedies and biological root issues.
Where do you start in this mess? What diagnostics are to be used?
My next step would be a ERP-therapy for the OCD.
