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Back with another update: This past week has been the first week of the Vitamin D/B100 supplement procedure per Dr. Stasha Gominak. She notes that it takes ~3 months of this to get the microbiome back to normal. But so far, my sleep has been horrible. I feel like I've taken a step backwards. I've experienced two days of exhaustion so crippling, I was not able to work. And today is feeling almost as bad.
I did try a couple other things this week. I tried new sheets (went from 100% cotton to 100% linen, even tried sleeping on the bare mattress with no sheets) and I tried new pillows (soft pillows and firm pillows). None of this had any discernable impact on sleep quality. I took two days this week to get some extra sunlight (2 hours outside instead of my usual 1 hour); this also had no discernable impact on sleep quality, but I plan on continuing to keep this up going forward.
I added a few more items to the bottom of the list that I plan on testing. I don't know what my next course of action is yet, I'll be sure to reply with whatever I do next.
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Yellow = ongoing testing
Red = no impact or made sleep worse
Black = not tested yet
- Check for parasites/dysbiotic bacteria via GI-MAP stool test (@chrstn4o)
- Liver flushes: Andrea Moritz protocol (@chrstn4o)
- Explore grounding your bed (@StephanF)
- Do what humans have done for centuries until "modern" quick rinseoff showering became a trend---a hot bath. Adding Epsom salts (magnesium) and baking soda will be absorbed thru your largest organ the skin. (@akgrrrl AND @Kocky777)
- Shoot for more than an hour of sunlight per day. Explore grounding during the day for better sleep. (@Sphagnum)
- Explore excessive EMF's - going to turn off my WIFI router at night and stop using apple ear pods during the day. (@Layne AND @Sphagnum)
- Experiment.. sleep in a different room for a few days, see if that does anything. You may have associated "going to sleep" as a stressful situation. (@HeyThere AND @Bozidar)
- Add more salt to food and a small pinch to the milk/juices you're drinking. If you take it too far, you may end up with a kind of high energy insomnia; be prepared to drink a bit of water before you sleep if that happens. (@ThinPicking)
- Try L-Ornithine to get the alcohol/ammonia out of his system, excellent amino acid for this. Also Taurine to lower Glutamate levels in the brain.(@HeyThere)
- Cyproheptadine - it has a calming effect so maybe it could solve his problem in two ways - 1st that cypro makes better sleep in general, and 2nd that he will not be stressed while not being able to sleep. Go slow with Cypro...one drop does it for me. (@Mathgirl AND @wzuo AND @Mathgirl)
- Look into phosphatidylserine (@Kocky777)
- I sleep on the couch in the living room because "bed in bedroom" is too "OK NOW YOU SLEEP" for me and my mind starts over-thinking. I get it. The couch is unconventional so it feels like "in a hotel". (@HeyThere)
- So, in my own Insomnia thread, @Peatful gave me the very effective advice to eat "1 pound of sugar in three days". I ate approximately 200 grams of honey and tonight I slept REALLY WELL and was also able to sleep WITHIN A FEW MINUTES. (@Kocky777)
- One thing I meant to put in my original reply in regards to the hotel thing, is that you may just need a new mattress.Different sheets as well. Different pillows. (@Sphagnum AND @HeyThere)
- B vitamins (Via Dr. Stasha Gominak Neurologist research) (@Mathgirl)
-Ice cream at night (Ray Peat), and Tocovit topically. (Idealabs via Haidut) (@Mathgirl)
- CBD Gummies (@frannybananny AND @HeyThere)
- Taurine is great, in fact I take magnesium taurate almost every night, milk thistle seems to help, 2 drops of Progest-E will really knock me out (@frannybananny)
- Incline Bed Therapy
- Iron supplementation
- mouth taping (I've tried this in the past, but will give it another go)
- Iodine supplementation (I don't consume salt with iodine, could I be deficient?)
- magnesium in the morning. magnesium BHB.
- nadh (PANMOL trademark). Very high dose. and sam-e [strongly advised to take w/ b vitamin complex]
- yohimbe bark powder to treat possible sleep apnea.
- Try taking eggs and beef out of my diet for a few days (these have been staples in my diet since my sleep issues began years ago, possibly related?)
- Test for mold exposure
- Get an air filter in the room
I did try a couple other things this week. I tried new sheets (went from 100% cotton to 100% linen, even tried sleeping on the bare mattress with no sheets) and I tried new pillows (soft pillows and firm pillows). None of this had any discernable impact on sleep quality. I took two days this week to get some extra sunlight (2 hours outside instead of my usual 1 hour); this also had no discernable impact on sleep quality, but I plan on continuing to keep this up going forward.
I added a few more items to the bottom of the list that I plan on testing. I don't know what my next course of action is yet, I'll be sure to reply with whatever I do next.
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Sleep Better To-Do List:
Green = positive impactYellow = ongoing testing
Black = not tested yet
- Check for parasites/dysbiotic bacteria via GI-MAP stool test (@chrstn4o)
- Liver flushes: Andrea Moritz protocol (@chrstn4o)
- Explore grounding your bed (@StephanF)
- Do what humans have done for centuries until "modern" quick rinseoff showering became a trend---a hot bath. Adding Epsom salts (magnesium) and baking soda will be absorbed thru your largest organ the skin. (@akgrrrl AND @Kocky777)
- Shoot for more than an hour of sunlight per day. Explore grounding during the day for better sleep. (@Sphagnum)
- Explore excessive EMF's - going to turn off my WIFI router at night and stop using apple ear pods during the day. (@Layne AND @Sphagnum)
- Add more salt to food and a small pinch to the milk/juices you're drinking. If you take it too far, you may end up with a kind of high energy insomnia; be prepared to drink a bit of water before you sleep if that happens. (@ThinPicking)
- Try L-Ornithine to get the alcohol/ammonia out of his system, excellent amino acid for this. Also Taurine to lower Glutamate levels in the brain.(@HeyThere)
- Cyproheptadine - it has a calming effect so maybe it could solve his problem in two ways - 1st that cypro makes better sleep in general, and 2nd that he will not be stressed while not being able to sleep. Go slow with Cypro...one drop does it for me. (@Mathgirl AND @wzuo AND @Mathgirl)
- Look into phosphatidylserine (@Kocky777)
- So, in my own Insomnia thread, @Peatful gave me the very effective advice to eat "1 pound of sugar in three days". I ate approximately 200 grams of honey and tonight I slept REALLY WELL and was also able to sleep WITHIN A FEW MINUTES. (@Kocky777)
- One thing I meant to put in my original reply in regards to the hotel thing, is that you may just need a new mattress.
- B vitamins (Via Dr. Stasha Gominak Neurologist research) (@Mathgirl)
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- CBD Gummies (@frannybananny AND @HeyThere)
- Taurine is great, in fact I take magnesium taurate almost every night, milk thistle seems to help, 2 drops of Progest-E will really knock me out (@frannybananny)
- Incline Bed Therapy
- Iron supplementation
- mouth taping (I've tried this in the past, but will give it another go)
- Iodine supplementation (I don't consume salt with iodine, could I be deficient?)
- magnesium in the morning. magnesium BHB.
- nadh (PANMOL trademark). Very high dose. and sam-e [strongly advised to take w/ b vitamin complex]
- yohimbe bark powder to treat possible sleep apnea.
- Try taking eggs and beef out of my diet for a few days (these have been staples in my diet since my sleep issues began years ago, possibly related?)
- Test for mold exposure
- Get an air filter in the room