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jyb said:An hour in the UK sun each day (with t-shirt) for a few days (it was not sunny before) got me 110 ng/ml on a recent vitamin D blood test. White skin, no supplement.
Tom said:jyb said:An hour in the UK sun each day (with t-shirt) for a few days (it was not sunny before) got me 110 ng/ml on a recent vitamin D blood test. White skin, no supplement.
Interesting. I assume you eat little or no starch, and good amounts of sugars? Perhaps this is a reason for the high vitamin D levels?
Tom said:Could it not be that there are certain anti-nutrients in grains (and seeds) that are designed to interfere with vitamin D and thus indirectly make whover eats them sick, short statured and be evolutionary unfit compared to those that do not eat these grains. This would be a very efficient trick from the point of the plant.
haidut said:post 73986 and in some cases they may even need a short-term course of high dose vitamin K2 (MK-4) only to get some calcification reversed.
TheHound said:post 109307haidut said:post 73986 and in some cases they may even need a short-term course of high dose vitamin K2 (MK-4) only to get some calcification reversed.
about how long is a "short term" course of high dose k2 to reverse calcification? and I assume you mean 15mg +?
haidut said:post 109374TheHound said:post 109307haidut said:post 73986 and in some cases they may even need a short-term course of high dose vitamin K2 (MK-4) only to get some calcification reversed.
about how long is a "short term" course of high dose k2 to reverse calcification? and I assume you mean 15mg +?
The animal studies I have seen lasted 2-4 weeks and used a human equivalent dose of 1mg/kg. So, a bit more than 15mg daily.
TheHound said:whoa. so if I'm 75kg I'd need a dosage of 75mg a day? that seems like a lot
cantstoppeating said:TheHound said:whoa. so if I'm 75kg I'd need a dosage of 75mg a day? that seems like a lot
hmm, let's see:
Human equivalent is 1mg/kg. So if you're 75kg, that's 1mg multiplied by 75 which gives 75mg of K2.
Good day.
TheHound said:post 109419cantstoppeating said:TheHound said:whoa. so if I'm 75kg I'd need a dosage of 75mg a day? that seems like a lot
hmm, let's see:
Human equivalent is 1mg/kg. So if you're 75kg, that's 1mg multiplied by 75 which gives 75mg of K2.
Good day.
lol. I was only wondering if that was true because it seems like a lot. thats an entire bottle of thorne in about 2 weeks
TheHound said:I was only wondering if that was true because it seems like a lot. thats an entire bottle of thorne in about 2 weeks
haidut said:post 109422 Yes, but you only need it for 2 weeks and then it's done. Also, lower doses for longer periods may achieve the same even though it has not been studied much.
TheHound said:post 109455haidut said:post 109422 Yes, but you only need it for 2 weeks and then it's done. Also, lower doses for longer periods may achieve the same even though it has not been studied much.
interesting. I was taking 12mg of cyproheptadine a day for almost two weeks and i read the study you posted saying that a human equivalent dosage of 12mg of cypro a day in rats prevented and reversed calcification in only 4 days. do you think it would still be necessary for one to do the 1mg/kg of k2 after this?
My last 25D levels were 101... any idea what could cause this with almost non existent supplementation? Just for context my lipids are all very high, only HDL in "normal" range.I posted a study showing people with the highest and lowest levels of vitamin D had the highest mortality. The lowest mortality was in the 35-45 range.
Since vitamin K and E may block each other's absorption I typically take no more than 200 IU of vitamin E together with my vitamin K.
If you feel fine and the vitamin D levels come back up then you probably don't need the calcitriol test, but ask your doctor anyways.