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Take some aspirin to counteract. I personally find it amazing for sleep quality. Funny how we're all so different
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Same.Take some aspirin to counteract. I personally find it amazing for sleep quality. Funny how we're all so different
Same.
Probably due to vitamin K robbing the tissues of calcium. You really need high vitamin D levels to take vitamin K. Even if that is not the mechanism of action the other fat solubles and magnesium seem to be needed to respond well to K.I responded very poorly to Thorne's MK-4. Over the course of several weeks it gave me very high blood pressure, made me intolerant to caffeine (which lasted years, only recently getting better), and ended with me having a severe adrenergic response (hypoglycemia, hypotension, etc.) where I broke out into a cold sweat and nearly passed out.
Back when this was happening I found a document from a Phase 1 clinical trial of Vitamin K2, showing that about 1% of subjects had extremely adverse reactions to K2 - so it's not unheard of.
Probably due to vitamin K robbing the tissues of calcium. You really need high vitamin D levels to take vitamin K. Even if that is not the mechanism of action the other fat solubles and magnesium seem to be needed to respond well to K.
I believe the amount of Magnesium is yogurt beats that of milk, but it's still negligible. At best you may have gotten 50-100 mg from those.
What about your calcium, vitamin A, and E intake?My magnesium intake has always been above the RDA (use Cronometer fairly consistently), mostly due to coffee, greens, and supplemental mag.
What about your calcium, vitamin A, and E intake?
Yeah the body is very complicated. Have you tried any other brand besides Thorne? I've known people that respond differently to different brands. Thorne has vitamin E in it which you are apparently not supposed to take with K.Drank lots of milk, calcium was over or around the RDA for sure. I've also been lucky enough to get a pQCT scan of my bone mineral density (this is different than the DEXA, more accurate, gives a cross-section of the bone) prior to experimenting with K2 while in a research position, and I can definitely say that I had above average mineralization/density as well. Vitamin A intake was adequate back then (regularly consumed liver/eggs), and Vit E intake has always been low because I don't respond well to supplemental Vitamin E.
I dunno, maybe this is crazy, but maybe some people just don't respond that well to K2 due to factors that we don't understand yet?