Cirion
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High Protein Diet Prevents & Reverses Fatty Liver Disease (steatosis)
I know many people suggest basically a carb only, low fat diet for fixing the liver and thyroid problems, but for most of us (myself included) who tried it, this didn't work too well... too much hunger and whatnot. Could increasing the protein dramatically while keeping carbs high fix the hunger problem, and in addition, the study Haidut posted suggests that high protein further helps the liver, so win-win?
Have many people around here tried high protein high carb low fat (maybe something like 35%-45%-20% ish) and if so how did it work out for you?
The only major negative of a high protein diet is the possibility of tanking blood glucose, right? Hence still needing carbs to be as high as possible, more so or at least equal to the protein.
My other concern with high protein is that it may be extremely challenging to minimize negative amino acids like tryptophan, cysteine, methionine, especially if you eat lots of dairy, Unless you really enjoy eating gelatin by the tub (I don't ... lol), plus not to mention the expense of that much gelatin.
Maybe bodybuilder "bro" diets are right after all??? The typical bro diet is indeed high protein, high carb, low fat... there is a young guy who is pretty shredded at my work place and he is high protein high carb low fat. I think he eats 300g protein a day, I asked him once.
I do have an n=1 anecdotal story of my own, but... Hard to say if it would have worked long term, because I did a few things different than RP suggests, and it ultimately failed, but I have theories as to why it did...
I actually did High protein High carb Zero (yes zero) fat for a while, at the suggestion of someone who gave me a bunch of advice.
I kid you not that almost all of my calories were Liquid, in the form of Whey protein & mostly Maltodextrin (Cyto-carb was my go to). He also told me to take 10g coriander, 10g curcumin, 10g cinnamon, 10g vitamin C a day. I did most of that pretty religiously and felt quite good for a month or two, in fact my personal trainer asked me what steroids I was taking, but then it started to go downhill and I quit. Looking back, I think it failed because I started to add starch to my diet (Ray Peat, wish I knew about you then, silly starch made me fail I'm all but certain now). I also started adding more muscle meats for protein (chicken breast), which also probably contributed to the failure of the diet. I guess Whey is a very good protein source and I need to get more of that in my diet. But it has tryptophan, doesn't it?
I know many people suggest basically a carb only, low fat diet for fixing the liver and thyroid problems, but for most of us (myself included) who tried it, this didn't work too well... too much hunger and whatnot. Could increasing the protein dramatically while keeping carbs high fix the hunger problem, and in addition, the study Haidut posted suggests that high protein further helps the liver, so win-win?
Have many people around here tried high protein high carb low fat (maybe something like 35%-45%-20% ish) and if so how did it work out for you?
The only major negative of a high protein diet is the possibility of tanking blood glucose, right? Hence still needing carbs to be as high as possible, more so or at least equal to the protein.
My other concern with high protein is that it may be extremely challenging to minimize negative amino acids like tryptophan, cysteine, methionine, especially if you eat lots of dairy, Unless you really enjoy eating gelatin by the tub (I don't ... lol), plus not to mention the expense of that much gelatin.
Maybe bodybuilder "bro" diets are right after all??? The typical bro diet is indeed high protein, high carb, low fat... there is a young guy who is pretty shredded at my work place and he is high protein high carb low fat. I think he eats 300g protein a day, I asked him once.
I do have an n=1 anecdotal story of my own, but... Hard to say if it would have worked long term, because I did a few things different than RP suggests, and it ultimately failed, but I have theories as to why it did...
I actually did High protein High carb Zero (yes zero) fat for a while, at the suggestion of someone who gave me a bunch of advice.
I kid you not that almost all of my calories were Liquid, in the form of Whey protein & mostly Maltodextrin (Cyto-carb was my go to). He also told me to take 10g coriander, 10g curcumin, 10g cinnamon, 10g vitamin C a day. I did most of that pretty religiously and felt quite good for a month or two, in fact my personal trainer asked me what steroids I was taking, but then it started to go downhill and I quit. Looking back, I think it failed because I started to add starch to my diet (Ray Peat, wish I knew about you then, silly starch made me fail I'm all but certain now). I also started adding more muscle meats for protein (chicken breast), which also probably contributed to the failure of the diet. I guess Whey is a very good protein source and I need to get more of that in my diet. But it has tryptophan, doesn't it?
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