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Joocy_J said:
Wrong, peating will improve all aspects of health including the symptoms of hypogonadism
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Hypogonadism/insomnia please HELP!
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Wrong, peating will improve all aspects of health including the symptoms of hypogonadism
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I have secondary hypogonadism, and i am diagnosed by a endocrinologist. I had normal puberty and lost my libido while dieting.Joocy_J said:
I have also been on both shots and testogel. I am on currently testogel
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slayers said:
Peating will improve health, and health is a general state. If you get healthier your hypogonadism will improve along with everything else
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bluebrasil said:
EDIT. Didn't mean to post the same thing twice
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So drinking orange juice, milk, avoid pufa, etc. will cure damaged testicles?
If someone has true hypogonandism (meaning there testies don't work) no diet or vitamin on earth will help get them to normal levels of testosterone
secondary is a different story, RP could indeed help
there is no guarantee shots or gels will help either....
I find it interesting this forum is all for pregnenolone, thyroid, aspirin but frowns upon testosterone, not sure why.
i think the best results is RP + TRT
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Doh, obviously eating well wont heal a damaged testicle, neither will it heal a broken bone or or make you regrow a missing limb!
But the body is one organism and and you cant become healthier without all parts of the body "getting better" to some extent
But the body is one organism and and you cant become healthier without all parts of the body "getting better" to some extent
princeamir said:
I generally can't go to sleep if I've eaten so little either (and I'm a middle aged woman with presumably lower calorie needs). I've resorted to rice cakes and honey for supper a couple of times - the better part of a packet of rice cakes. :) There are people here who have found sleep improved when they ate more sugar through the day. Sometimes timing makes a difference - some people need supper, but some people sleep easier if they eat enough earlier in the day, and nothing for 2-3 hours before sleep. You can try and see what works.
Getting some sunshine regularly can help, esp. morning sun. We need red light every day for good energy metabolism.
There are a few threads with people saying what helped them get to sleep. Attending to breathing can be one - on the rare occasions now that I don't go to sleep fairly quickly, my first approach is to eat something (I keep dates by the bed, but this can be tough on the teeth), and my second is to try reduced breathing exercises or stick the sheet mostly over my head (and keep mouth shut).
There aren't any guaranteees that any particular thing will solve all your problems, but I tend to usually favour addressing nutrition, light, breathing and approppriate exercise first, and see how far you get with that, and then consider other supplements.
If you eventually decide to try NDT, and you can get full NDT (ie with the T4 and T3 still in it), then I recommend monitoring temps and pulse, starting with a small dose - eg 1/4 of a grain, and incrementing with similar small doses only after about 3 weeks if needed. T3 has a short half life; T4 has a longer half-life, and can take at least two weeks to reacha stable level in the blood with regular supplementation.
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tara said:
Thank you Tara!
I live in a place where there is not much sunshine, even in the morning. I have read most of the sleep topics here on the forum and it have given me some good tips. I also have increased my salt and feeling that my sleep is getting better.
Do you know if niacinmide can help with sleep ? i have regular niacin at home and after the flush i feel sedated and can easliy fall asleep.
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I think there are some people here who have found niacinamide helpful for sleep. Dosage varies. Peat seems to recommend 50-100 mg 2 or more times a day.
If you don't get sunshine, it may be worth seeing if you can get some more red light (orange through to near-infra-red) by other means - eg strong incandescents are Peats suggestion; and halogens may be better than nothing. There are people here who say the red light made a key difference for them.
There are a couple of long threads on supplemental red light.
If you don't get sunshine, it may be worth seeing if you can get some more red light (orange through to near-infra-red) by other means - eg strong incandescents are Peats suggestion; and halogens may be better than nothing. There are people here who say the red light made a key difference for them.
There are a couple of long threads on supplemental red light.
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tara said:
Going to look in to it more. Thank you. I have also increased my calories to 1850 and feeling a bit calmer and not so anxious.
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slayers said:
Because if the thyroid function isn't good(usually the reason for wanting trt) then it can convert into estrogen. Ray Peat recommends using supplements that are much safer in this regard which can raise testosterone levels just as much as trt. From what Haidut has posted before, it shouldn't even matter too much if the testicles have been completely removed:
"No, in all likelhood you can get away with not taking testosterone but one of its precursors. There are numerous studies on PubMed (with rodents) showing adrenals and peripheral tissues can synthesize testosterone just fine from precursors like pregnenolone and/or DHEA. There is a specific study with castrated male rodents showing suplemental pregnenolone allowed them to function and synthesize testosterone just fine, albeit with reduced plasma levels of the hormone. However, peripheral tissue levels (which is what matters anyways) were similar to those of control animals.
Of course, supplementing pregnenolone or DHEA won't solve the sterility issue since sperm is only produced in testicles." -Haidut (https://www.raypeatforum.com/forum/view ... =23&t=7231)
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1850 calories is probably at least a 2000 calorie deficit for you. From your initial macros, the protien and fat intake is fine, but 200grams of carbs is probably only enough for breakfast. Most supplements advised here work to increase your metabolic rate, and they won't really work if you are eating at a caloric deficit. I would throw away the probiotic, and stop supplementing zinc everyday. Your digestion won't be good until you get your temp and pulse up to at least the normal numbers, and until then milk may not be an ideal food as it is difficult to digest. An antibiotic can improve your digestion before you reach a higher temp/pulse, but at such a caloric deficit you won't likely tolerate an antibiotic well, but this is something to consider along with thyroid, aspirin(if you don't have risk of getting cut in training) and various other supplements once you reach a higher caloric intake to improve digestion which is directly related to the temp/pulse.
Pay attention to how all your foods are digesting, and stop eating any foods that cause bloating. You don't need a complex diet, just one that can digest well and allow you to reach a normal caloric intake so that you can start to take supplements. I recommend honey and greek yogurt as easily digestible foods. The cottage cheese and beef/potatoes are good foods to hide a lot of salt in. When you have a low temperature/pulse rate you won't retain salt well and exercise will further increase your need for salt. I don't know how much salt you need but I think you would probably do better with at least 5 teaspoons/day and maybe even double that. Insomnia is just caused by too much stress hormones and aside from eating more total calories, you can combat this by consuming lots of honey with a little coconut oil and salt in the hours leading up to bed and right before bed and consume more if you wake up in the night.
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I've found youreatopia informative on recovery from anorexia etc. Some of it is not compatible with Peat's ideas - she encourages nut butters for instance, and Peat does not. But her descriptions of the what happens with undereating/energy deficiency, and her suggestions for recovery and what to expect are interesting. I've not seen Peat address this subject directly.
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