Hi!
I never posted anything on here… I just jumped into this kind of eating cold turkey..and waited for some results…
Last Summer, before I knew about Ray Peat.. I worked in the tropics for the Summer. It was hot and since I’m always hot, I didn’t miss warm foods…so mostly I ate
B: millet with an egg and coffee (or buckwheat kasha or corn flakes with raw milk and dates)
S: fruits (pineapple/figs/oranges)
L: 3 bananas and peanut butter (oil poured out) for late lunch
D: (just every 2nd or 3rd day) -meat, carrots, some rice crackers
Those bananas and PB really made me full and I was eagerly waiting to have them every single day.
Without realizing I lost around 10 pounds – I actually realized I lost that much when I returned home, from the summer work and saw myself in my old clothes.
Then I found out about Ray Peat…and in September I was sooo excited to start with dairy, fruits, gelatin, sugar… Everything made so much sense… I print out all his articles and read piece by piece…
I start gaining weight (I didn't eat tons of calories and I was super strict...even through all the holidays..I NEVER ate out, always only used coconut oil...no grains, starch.)..I was feeling more and more tired…
I mostly ate cottage cheese, oranges, dry fruits, gelatin, meat broths, some potatoes , coffee with organic raw cane sugar and raw milk. I even did 2 weeks of only potatoes, OJ, coffee and gelatin.. (one doctor works according to RP and she put me on this “Start up” with just potatoes and gelatin) – I didn’t lose anything, just got extremely tired of potatoes fried in coconut oil.
I'm from Europe, we do have good milk and I get cheese from the farmers that still use animal rennet.
I kept gaining weight, I felt tired, sluggish…with face full of acne.
The ONLY good thing was that I had NO cravings for starchy foods
My morning temperature did rise and my pulse got better, but I kept gaining weight.
My eyes start getting puffy, the upper eyelid start literally hanging, so people start asking me what's wrong with me…I had no idea what to do.
I used aspirin, vitamin E, gelatin…Orange juice (our 100% OJ not from concentrate is super expensive – ¼ gallon costs around 7 $)…
After 2 months of eating like this my breasts start getting incredibly sore..first around ovulation all the way until the 3rd day of period…it was so bad I could not be without the tightest sports bra… I even wanted to sleep in it, because they were bigger and oh so sore…
The gynecologist kept asking me if I was pregnant. No, I wasn't. The only thing changed was my diet,
Then I wondered if I was estrogen dominant from all the cottage cheese? Something must have been in the foods I was eating..as I do not drink from plastic bottles, our water is not contaminated with hormones that much…and such a change in just 2 months was clearly from the diet changes.
4 months later nothing changed. I was too tired, with terrible acne, now and then I got bad pinching in teeth and the weight gain…so I start getting depressed, too. I used vitamin A (on the skin) and start taking Progest-E.
No change. I was just more and more tired. I could sleep for 10 hours straight (I never had problems sleeping)..
I stopped eating oranges, drinking OJ,…nothing. Everything stayed the same.
Then I gave up.
Immediately when I stopped eating fruits, sugar and gelatin, my face was less bloated. The skin above my eyes (sorry, dunno how you call that part of the eyes that gets puffy?) is still very loose, but it’s not that puffy anymore. Now for the first month in half year my breasts aren’t sore anymore.
So, I’m wondering…
Is it possible there’s tons of estrogen in low fat cottage cheese? (I used one without any additives /guar gum,…)
Is it possible that all the sugar is affecting certain body types differently? (I remember always having cravings when I ate sugar…and I know many people that don’t feel good on tons of fruit..)
I’m really in a sort of a hard place, because everything Ray writes about makes sooo much sense…and I would love to make it work….but … my body doesn’t seem to feel good on it.
Anyone else with common issues?
Maybe I didn’t insist on it long enough? (I was just really getting depressed. I looked terrible, bloated, fat, with pimples, saggy eyelids and puffy eyes and very very tired…)
And
Is it actually possible that estrogen was just “coming out” (of somewhere) and that this was just a release of it ..that showed up in all these negative effects?
I would appreciate any input… cuz I’m really lost…
Thank You,
Maya
I never posted anything on here… I just jumped into this kind of eating cold turkey..and waited for some results…
Last Summer, before I knew about Ray Peat.. I worked in the tropics for the Summer. It was hot and since I’m always hot, I didn’t miss warm foods…so mostly I ate
B: millet with an egg and coffee (or buckwheat kasha or corn flakes with raw milk and dates)
S: fruits (pineapple/figs/oranges)
L: 3 bananas and peanut butter (oil poured out) for late lunch
D: (just every 2nd or 3rd day) -meat, carrots, some rice crackers
Those bananas and PB really made me full and I was eagerly waiting to have them every single day.
Without realizing I lost around 10 pounds – I actually realized I lost that much when I returned home, from the summer work and saw myself in my old clothes.
Then I found out about Ray Peat…and in September I was sooo excited to start with dairy, fruits, gelatin, sugar… Everything made so much sense… I print out all his articles and read piece by piece…
I start gaining weight (I didn't eat tons of calories and I was super strict...even through all the holidays..I NEVER ate out, always only used coconut oil...no grains, starch.)..I was feeling more and more tired…
I mostly ate cottage cheese, oranges, dry fruits, gelatin, meat broths, some potatoes , coffee with organic raw cane sugar and raw milk. I even did 2 weeks of only potatoes, OJ, coffee and gelatin.. (one doctor works according to RP and she put me on this “Start up” with just potatoes and gelatin) – I didn’t lose anything, just got extremely tired of potatoes fried in coconut oil.
I'm from Europe, we do have good milk and I get cheese from the farmers that still use animal rennet.
I kept gaining weight, I felt tired, sluggish…with face full of acne.
The ONLY good thing was that I had NO cravings for starchy foods
My morning temperature did rise and my pulse got better, but I kept gaining weight.
My eyes start getting puffy, the upper eyelid start literally hanging, so people start asking me what's wrong with me…I had no idea what to do.
I used aspirin, vitamin E, gelatin…Orange juice (our 100% OJ not from concentrate is super expensive – ¼ gallon costs around 7 $)…
After 2 months of eating like this my breasts start getting incredibly sore..first around ovulation all the way until the 3rd day of period…it was so bad I could not be without the tightest sports bra… I even wanted to sleep in it, because they were bigger and oh so sore…
The gynecologist kept asking me if I was pregnant. No, I wasn't. The only thing changed was my diet,
Then I wondered if I was estrogen dominant from all the cottage cheese? Something must have been in the foods I was eating..as I do not drink from plastic bottles, our water is not contaminated with hormones that much…and such a change in just 2 months was clearly from the diet changes.
4 months later nothing changed. I was too tired, with terrible acne, now and then I got bad pinching in teeth and the weight gain…so I start getting depressed, too. I used vitamin A (on the skin) and start taking Progest-E.
No change. I was just more and more tired. I could sleep for 10 hours straight (I never had problems sleeping)..
I stopped eating oranges, drinking OJ,…nothing. Everything stayed the same.
Then I gave up.
Immediately when I stopped eating fruits, sugar and gelatin, my face was less bloated. The skin above my eyes (sorry, dunno how you call that part of the eyes that gets puffy?) is still very loose, but it’s not that puffy anymore. Now for the first month in half year my breasts aren’t sore anymore.
So, I’m wondering…
Is it possible there’s tons of estrogen in low fat cottage cheese? (I used one without any additives /guar gum,…)
Is it possible that all the sugar is affecting certain body types differently? (I remember always having cravings when I ate sugar…and I know many people that don’t feel good on tons of fruit..)
I’m really in a sort of a hard place, because everything Ray writes about makes sooo much sense…and I would love to make it work….but … my body doesn’t seem to feel good on it.
Anyone else with common issues?
Maybe I didn’t insist on it long enough? (I was just really getting depressed. I looked terrible, bloated, fat, with pimples, saggy eyelids and puffy eyes and very very tired…)
And
Is it actually possible that estrogen was just “coming out” (of somewhere) and that this was just a release of it ..that showed up in all these negative effects?
I would appreciate any input… cuz I’m really lost…
Thank You,
Maya