sixers
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I have some health troubles I have been trying to solve: ADHD, acne, gastritis, IBS, tendonitis, cold sensitivity, allergies/histamine intolerance.
Recently, I tried upping my Zinc through oysters (maybe 15/day as an experiment), and it was the most wonderful experience. It solved almost all my symptoms and I had motivation and excitement for life that I have not experienced for a while. However, it only lasted around 3 days. After those 3 days, the same oysters began to taste bad, make my stomach hurt, and no longer give me the positive changes. Zinc supplements faired similarly. A little after this time, I was having my ~weekly liver and I became very energized with increased circulation, though worse acne. Looking back, I assume it was the Copper.
After taking the Zinc, I was left with a strong craving for Vitamin C foods, so I went ahead and increased them. They seemed to increase my energy at first, but soon they led to headaches. As I got the headaches, I would crave MSG. I hear Vitamin C increases glutamate reuptake so I assume that is why. Perhaps the headaches were caused by low acetylcholine or glutamate?
I decided a more sensible counter-balance to the Zinc would be Copper, so I began supplementing around 1mg/day. It made me energized about 12hrs after taking it but, otherwise, little effect. Around this time, I began to experience increased lethargy. At one point, I was eating eggs, and they made me very cold, unmotivated, and depressed (excess acetylcholine, I assume). From reading the wonderful posts on this forum, I decided this meant too much Zinc and too little Copper, so I decided to increase my Copper. I did not notice much effect though. Maybe less joint pain. Maybe a little more energy and warmth, but only sporadically. I just kept going up to maybe 5mg/day Copper.
Now, after taking this dose, I am getting many headaches. It appears the threshold of Vitamin C it takes to give me a headache has been greatly decreased by the Copper. Zinc seems to cure the headache, but make my stomach hurt. I am not sure where to go from here. It seems to me that a Copper deficiency best matches my symptoms, so maybe I just need to take higher doses for longer? Not sure what to do about the headaches though. It seems like something is messed up with my methylation. Any thoughts or suggestions would be so appreciated!!
Other Notes:
- I am 19m
- My diet: Honey, potatoes, mangoes, shrimp, ground beef, cheese, ice-cream, eggs, liver, oysters
- b1 and TMG (also maybe magnesium) make me depressed. I assume they raise my acetylcholine too high.
- b6 makes me manic and gives me insomnia. I am thinking maybe it is a problem with my catecholamine synthesis. Maybe I can't turn norepinephrine into epinephrine because of a methylation issue??
- thyroid gives me a stress rxn. I assume I have some other limiting reactant on my energy production. Maybe Copper??
- I have some undermethylation-esk symptoms. I also get a large effect from creatine which makes me think maybe I am on the undermethylation side. Could be wrong though as idk why TMG would not work for me then.
Lmk if I did something wrong since this if my first post. I have loved reading this forum!
Recently, I tried upping my Zinc through oysters (maybe 15/day as an experiment), and it was the most wonderful experience. It solved almost all my symptoms and I had motivation and excitement for life that I have not experienced for a while. However, it only lasted around 3 days. After those 3 days, the same oysters began to taste bad, make my stomach hurt, and no longer give me the positive changes. Zinc supplements faired similarly. A little after this time, I was having my ~weekly liver and I became very energized with increased circulation, though worse acne. Looking back, I assume it was the Copper.
After taking the Zinc, I was left with a strong craving for Vitamin C foods, so I went ahead and increased them. They seemed to increase my energy at first, but soon they led to headaches. As I got the headaches, I would crave MSG. I hear Vitamin C increases glutamate reuptake so I assume that is why. Perhaps the headaches were caused by low acetylcholine or glutamate?
I decided a more sensible counter-balance to the Zinc would be Copper, so I began supplementing around 1mg/day. It made me energized about 12hrs after taking it but, otherwise, little effect. Around this time, I began to experience increased lethargy. At one point, I was eating eggs, and they made me very cold, unmotivated, and depressed (excess acetylcholine, I assume). From reading the wonderful posts on this forum, I decided this meant too much Zinc and too little Copper, so I decided to increase my Copper. I did not notice much effect though. Maybe less joint pain. Maybe a little more energy and warmth, but only sporadically. I just kept going up to maybe 5mg/day Copper.
Now, after taking this dose, I am getting many headaches. It appears the threshold of Vitamin C it takes to give me a headache has been greatly decreased by the Copper. Zinc seems to cure the headache, but make my stomach hurt. I am not sure where to go from here. It seems to me that a Copper deficiency best matches my symptoms, so maybe I just need to take higher doses for longer? Not sure what to do about the headaches though. It seems like something is messed up with my methylation. Any thoughts or suggestions would be so appreciated!!
Other Notes:
- I am 19m
- My diet: Honey, potatoes, mangoes, shrimp, ground beef, cheese, ice-cream, eggs, liver, oysters
- b1 and TMG (also maybe magnesium) make me depressed. I assume they raise my acetylcholine too high.
- b6 makes me manic and gives me insomnia. I am thinking maybe it is a problem with my catecholamine synthesis. Maybe I can't turn norepinephrine into epinephrine because of a methylation issue??
- thyroid gives me a stress rxn. I assume I have some other limiting reactant on my energy production. Maybe Copper??
- I have some undermethylation-esk symptoms. I also get a large effect from creatine which makes me think maybe I am on the undermethylation side. Could be wrong though as idk why TMG would not work for me then.
Lmk if I did something wrong since this if my first post. I have loved reading this forum!