michael94
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Ray peat in this clip about the Dog is referring to discarding the blood plasma and replacing with saltwater/saline solution right? Isnt that what happens when plasma is donated
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I started listening to the kmud interviews again recently during relaxation time and found it interesting. I mostly came across the idea of whole blood donation on this forum but this example Ray gives is of plasma "donation" not whole blood.Yeah he said it reduces inflammatory microvesicles
Yeah i think it depends on iron status. He told me whole blood is good for getting rid of excess iron.I started listening to the kmud interviews again recently during relaxation time and found it interesting. I mostly came across the idea of whole blood donation on this forum but this example Ray gives is of plasma "donation" not whole blood.
ThinkingI am O+ so whenever I donate they want to do "Double Red Blood Cells".
As I understand it, they are basically removing one pint of plasma but two pints worth of red blood cells. I always say yes, because it seems beneficial to me and to them.
I've always meant to ask this forum for perspective on this.
I go this coming wednesday so any thoughts before then will influence my action possibly.
I saw that. I wonder if I can do it through my local hospital or red cross, although the red cross says it wants ab plasma donors on its website. Ive yet to call them.From what I’ve read plasma donation is super sketchy. They are for-profit enterprises that don’t have the same standards as the Red Cross. From the donor perspective they will allow more frequent donations than is healthy and use some kind of citrate as an anti-clotting agent that can cause problems. You can make hundreds $$$ per month though.
Ray peat in this clip about the Dog is referring to discarding the blood plasma and replacing with saltwater/saline solution right? Isnt that what happens when plasma is donated
Going back to this original quote.... No, this is not very similar to what happens with Plasma donations. With Plasma, they do not take the Red Blood Cells. What Peat is talking about in this clip is replacing whole blood with Saline solution, so it sounds.
When you donate plasma (at least at the place I donate blood at), they replace it with a citrate solution. That's likely different from the saline solution Peat described, and I think Peat has warned against citrate in supplements, so this might not be the best idea.
From what I’ve read plasma donation is super sketchy. They are for-profit enterprises that don’t have the same standards as the Red Cross. From the donor perspective they will allow more frequent donations than is healthy and use some kind of citrate as an anti-clotting agent that can cause problems. You can make hundreds $$$ per month though.
What Ray Peat mentions in this clip is not replacing whole blood with saline solution, although the way he words it is kind of confusing because he says saline solution to "replace" the red blood cells but he is saying the saline solution makesit possible to add to red blood cells back into the body. When he refers to the liquid portion of the blood that is the plasma, so it is just like plasma donation. And you are correct about the citrate solution ... that is the main issue
Correct, I listened again and realized I was mistaken....I edited my original post.
If you have the time to do a plasma donation, you may want to call around to a few centers and see what kind of replacement solutions they offer. You can say that you've have an issue with citrate in supplements, and ask if a straight saline solution is possible.
Where I live the Red Cross only accepts plasma donations if you are AB blood type. I am A blood type so I called the other two options which is Octapharm and Biomat Usa. I mentioned that I have an issue with citrate and wondered if it is optional, both said No and explained the process a bit ( which appears to be the same ). The citrate solution is used as an anticoagulant and the amount used varies depending on how much is needed ( done automatically by the machine they say). After this they do give you a sodium/saline solution but the citrate does not appear to be optional because it is built into how their machines work in returning the red blood cells/platelets.
One of the young ladies made it sound as if the blood were not very thick then not much anticoagulant would be used/needed, which if true would offer some recourse in terms of preparation for plasma donation.