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chrismeyers said:You all are eating way too many calories. 3500? 3000? Youll never improve your health regardless of particular diet without total consumption control. Ray speaks frequently about anti aging and calorie restriction.
chrismeyers said:You all are eating way too many calories. 3500? 3000? Youll never improve your health regardless of particular diet without total consumption control. Ray speaks frequently about anti aging and calorie restriction.
My understanding is Peat has referred to the studies showing that restrictions of some particular amino acids has at least as great an effect on the life extension as calorie restriction, and suggested that restriction of those amino acids may be beneficial. I also thought that the calorie restriction studies that showed life-extension were of life-time calorie restriction - ie from birth - which is very different from restricting after one has grown up.chrismeyers said:You all are eating way too many calories. 3500? 3000? Youll never improve your health regardless of particular diet without total consumption control. Ray speaks frequently about anti aging and calorie restriction.
tara said:My understanding is Peat has referred to the studies showing that restrictions of some particular amino acids has at least as great an effect on the life extension as calorie restriction, and suggested that restriction of those amino acids may be beneficial. I also thought that the calorie restriction studies that showed life-extension were of life-time calorie restriction - ie from birth - which is very different from restricting after one has grown up.chrismeyers said:You all are eating way too many calories. 3500? 3000? Youll never improve your health regardless of particular diet without total consumption control. Ray speaks frequently about anti aging and calorie restriction.
As far as I can tell, 3000 calories is normal consumption for adult males; 3500 for men still growing and maturing up to about 25 yrs. Common public calorie recommendations tend to be based on flawed studies relying on self reports about consumption, which have been shown statistically to underestimate what people actually eat (on average). Restricting to much less that can potentially result in health issues arising from energy deficit and resulting catabolism and/or reduced metabolism.
chrismeyers said:I stand by the point that calorie restriction is important. Everything contains PUFAs even our best mostly saturated fats. The reason why virtually every study shows that creatures live longer and are healthier with calorie restriction and that even upto consuming a virtually fat free diet (like no fat) caused no real health problems when proper minerals were added. I cant even imagine eating more than 2500 calories and thats a heavy day for me. To consume 3000-3500 youre eating too much fat. I mean even if you drank a full gallon of skim milk a day which is basically a perfect proportion of sugars to protein and virtually no fat, thats only 1400 calories. And that has 190 grams of sugar and 120 grams of protein. How do you add so many more calories? Youve gotta be eating too much fat. Even good sat fats should be kept under control
chrismeyers said:You all are eating way too many calories. 3500? 3000? Youll never improve your health regardless of particular diet without total consumption control. Ray speaks frequently about anti aging and calorie restriction.
Ray Peat said:Several things relating to calorie-restricted diets are not generally known. First, in 1987, Schroeder found that the removal of toxic heavy metals from the diet had the same effect as caloric restriction. Second, although underfed animals grow more slowly, their metabolism is not necessarily depressed. (In fact, animals on a low protein diet have a higher rate of oxygen consumption than do the animals that eat a more normal diet.
Ray Peat said:A nutrition researcher in San Diego suspected that the life-extending effects of calorie restriction might be the result of a decreased intake of toxins. He removed the toxic heavy metals from foods, and found that the animals which ate a normal amount of food lived as long as the semi-starved animals. Recently, the iron content of food has been identified as the major life-shortening factor, rather than the calories. [Choi and Yu, Age vol. 17, page 93, 1994.]
Ray Peat said:Although Clive McKay's studies of life extension through caloric restriction were done in the 1930s, only a few studies have been done to find out which nutrients' restriction contributes most to extending the life span. Restricting toxic heavy metals, without restricting calories, produces about the same life-extending effect as caloric restriction. Restricting only tryptophan, or only cysteine, produces a greater extension of the life span than achieved in most of the studies of caloric restriction. How great would be the life-span extension if both tryptophan and cysteine were restricted at the same time?
chrismeyers said:I stand by the point that calorie restriction is important. Everything contains PUFAs even our best mostly saturated fats. The reason why virtually every study shows that creatures live longer and are healthier with calorie restriction and that even upto consuming a virtually fat free diet (like no fat) caused no real health problems when proper minerals were added. I cant even imagine eating more than 2500 calories and thats a heavy day for me. To consume 3000-3500 youre eating too much fat. I mean even if you drank a full gallon of skim milk a day which is basically a perfect proportion of sugars to protein and virtually no fat, thats only 1400 calories. And that has 190 grams of sugar and 120 grams of protein. How do you add so many more calories? Youve gotta be eating too much fat. Even good sat fats should be kept under control
FredSonoma said:I spend like $300 a week!! Wtf am I doing wrong lol. I think I also eat like 8000 calories a day lol