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5-apdb To Deplete All Your Serotonin?
the op depleted his serotonin and sounded aggressive af . unless he forgot to turn the caps lock off
Yeah, that's Hilarious
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5-apdb To Deplete All Your Serotonin?
the op depleted his serotonin and sounded aggressive af . unless he forgot to turn the caps lock off
It could be true: the most power-hungrier people I have known are normally pretty estrogenic. The masculine guy tends to be just chill. I think that when you can't win physiologicaly you try to.do it materially.
5-apdb To Deplete All Your Serotonin?
the op depleted his serotonin and sounded aggressive af . unless he forgot to turn the caps lock off
Yeah, that's Hilarious
See my post above. This is a highly serotonergic agent, quite the opposite of what OP stated it would do.
But what Jordan peterson says is that serotonin helps one climb dominance hierarchies. He thinks serotonin is a good thing. I think he's kind of a hack tbh. He seems like the exact opposite of Peat. He just says "dominance hierarchies" and all these young men that are obsessed with him start drooling at the mouth. He talks in circles and seems to be in a kind of angry hypomanic state most of the time. Ranting and raving.
well, serotonin is an inflammatory, excitatory hromoneIf serotonin is such a malevolent demon, should we deplete it entirely in the brain? Nonsense. Clearly excessive serotonin production and excessive tryptophan transport into the brain can precipitate depression, aggression, and anxiety. However, the situation is not as black and white as many here are making it out to be - the entire nervous system and neuro-topology need to be taken into account.
Jordan Peterson is power-hungry? His audience is power-hungry? I've listened to some of his lectures, is that me? Is that an accurate description of his audience at large, and the man? How can the person who stated that possibly know this?
Either that or it's just ad hominem, a cheap tactic used to dispense with real argumentation. Which explains it better, that the person knows the characteristics of Peterson and his audience, or wants to dismiss them?
P.S. - he may or may not be wrong about serotonin in humans but that isn't really the point, the point is that hierarchical social orders are reinforced with physiological outcomes
His die hard followers are usually sexually frustrated redditors who stopped reading the gaming Reddit and started reading the self improvement Reddit in an effort to "win" a mate. Usually people with grandiose power fatansies. Obsessed with climbing the "dominance hierarchy" so they can get money, women, status and power.
Yeah. Some drugs tend to raise serotonin in one part of the brain and decrease them in another. Organization is key.However, the situation is not as black and white as many here are making it out to be - the entire nervous system and neuro-topology need to be taken into account.
With my experiences with serotonin (taking both strong agonists and antagonists) high serotonin seems to lead to frustration (and hence rage). It is not the same type of aggression as mediated by androgens and what not. That being said such frustrations can be productive and even healthy under appropriate circumstance, just not chronically.Now I've read things like this before, how high or low Serotonin corresponds in animal behavior. When we say aggression, isn't passivity an indication of learned helplessness? Isn't aggression healthy ? I'm the most non confrontational guy I ever met, it's crazy to think I have physical balls, and not a *****. Is this high or low Serotonin or nobody really knows in the end ? Lol
It's also confusing because wouldn't high Serotonin translate to social anxiety and thus deter one from being socially aggressive ?
It's used in parkinson's treatment. You can see data from the Parkinson's studies. Peat called L-DOPA toxic in one of his newsletters.Has anyone tried gramme amounts of L-Dopa?
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Weird. Given in massive doses (400mg/kg) it prolongs the lifespan in rats.Peat called L-DOPA toxic in one of his newsletters.
A factor is that masculine men are given higher social status naturally. Estrogenic men have to fight for it. People naturally respect more masculine looking men.My point was that the estrogenic men tend to have power-fantasies and try to climb the wall at any cost. Masculine men are healthy and they usually doesn't give a **** about hierarchy and do do whatever they enjoy. That's my experience at least, I'm not saying that this is the truth.
I think he said because of increased iron/PUFA in the brain of older people, there is very high chance of excess dopamine being metabolized into "toxic" products.Weird. Given in massive doses (400mg/kg) it prolongs the lifespan in rats.
His die hard followers are usually sexually frustrated redditors who stopped reading the gaming Reddit and started reading the self improvement Reddit in an effort to "win" a mate. Usually people with grandiose power fatansies. Obsessed with climbing the "dominance hierarchy" so they can get money, women, status and power.
I've been listening to a lot of Jordan Peterson's podcasts lately which like Peat have completely blown my mind in that it has expanded my thinking. If you're not familiar he is a Canadian professor, clinical psychologist, philosopher etc recently making waves in the political discourse regarding made up gender pronouns (a topic for another forum).
But in listening, Dr Peterson mentioned that lobsters have the same serotonin systems that regulate the dominance hierarchies as humans. With the negative connotations of serotonin from the Peat perspective and well as a completely different perspective than the pharma feel good hormone, has any here looked at the dominance hierarchy angle? This would seem to indicate that serotonin is part of a deep, complex, and old biological system.
Here is an interview: