Mito
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Is there a brand you like?what about a natural food source like acerola powder or amla?
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Is there a brand you like?what about a natural food source like acerola powder or amla?
Hi @Mito, Not yet there. Have just begun considering adding a small amount (250mg a day). So am now just contemplating using it and which source. Travis might be correct for someone like me, getting it from fruits. I remember @Janelle525 mentioned a brand on FB that looked clean and fairly pure, but I lost the link. Janelle do you have that link?Is there a brand you like?
Thank you @Janelle525Yes, it's a lady who set out to find the best China made ascorbic acid in bulk. She also has china free lipo C and bulk niacinamide. Vitamin shop
The COA is always changing but she is easy to contact.
Ray suggests is no amount of Omega-3 that is favorable. If you listen to the KMUD radio interviews you will hear Ray talk about how fish oil has been used to make varnish, since it oxidizes so rapidly. How much varnish do you want to eat? And how is that favorable? What evidence do you have that it is OK eat any omega-3?That PLUS more favorable omega 3/Omega 6.
Thanks. I see Pure Encapsulations has Acerola but mixed with naringin/rutin/hesperidin.Hi @Mito, Not yet there. Have just begun considering adding a small amount (250mg a day). So am now just contemplating using it and which source. Travis might be correct for someone like me, getting it from fruits. I remember @Janelle525 mentioned a brand on FB that looked clean and fairly pure, but I lost the link. Janelle do you have that link?
That would be good imo @Mito, they are the bioflavonoids. Pure Encapsulations makes great products. I use them the majority of the time for other than Idealabs.Thanks. I see Pure Encapsulations has Acerola but mixed with naringin/rutin/hesperidin.
This seems a bit high. I think I remember him saying that an animal our size would be expected to produce ~3–7 grams if allometrically-scaled and extrapolated.The amount of ascorbate for patients at high risk should be comparable to the amount of ascorbate our ancestors synthesized in their body before they lost this ability: between 10,000 and 20,000 milligrams per day.
How much varnish do you want to eat? And how is that favorable?
Pauling does recommend quite a bit. Here is a quote:
This seems a bit high. I think I remember him saying that an animal our size would be expected to produce ~3–7 grams if allometrically-scaled and extrapolated.
I just used the cronometer and I have only 828.3 milligrams today. This is still 920% of the RDA, but quite a bit short of Pauling's recommendation. I can see a very high-fruit diet delivering about 1½ grams.
I wish I could find out how he arrived at that number. He recommended 2,000 milligrams per day in the '70s: Pauling Recommendation
The amount needed to maximize collagen synthesis should be lower than this. But any additional amount functions as a general antioxidant. I just glanced at a study that showed glutathione-depleted rats were protected from death with additional vitamin C.
And it is known to regenerate vitamin E on the cell membrane, lowering requirements for this vitamin.
And it seems safe in gram amounts. I don't know how much becomes "too much", but Linus Pauling lived to be 93 so it does appear safe in high doses.
After reading a few articles on persorption, I stopped taking any pills with small crystalline particles in them.
Volkheimer, G., and F. H. Schulz. "The phenomenon of persorption." Digestion 1.4 (1968): 213-218.
I don't know. He doesn't seem to mention it much. (I have only read about half of Ray Peat's articles.)What does Ray say about C? Why isn't he for it? Seems only supportive of getting it in food.
Ray PeatSome insects that have been studied have been found not to require the essential fatty acids. [14]* [...]
*If we followed Linus Pauling's reasoning in determining optimal vitamin C intake, this study of the linoleic acid content of the tissues of an animal which can synthesize it would suggest that we are eating about 100 times more "EFA" than we should.
High levels of vitamin C can protect tissue levels of vitamin E and may indirectly contribute to the immunoenhancement by vitamin E.
I don't know. He doesn't seem to mention it much. (I have only read about half of Ray Peat's articles.)
In one of his articles, there is a footnote denoted by an asterisk.
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He mentions its well-accepted vitamin-E-sparing function:
And he also talks about it increasing iron absorption, and in an introductory remark for Albert Szent-Györgyi.
That seems to be it. I know that some people here watch his videos but I haven't seen any of those. I think he tried to make his articles uncontroversial in most respects so he could introduce other less-known controversial topics. Some things just seem too far out for some people because of cultural conditioning, and having too many unsanctioned ideas in one single place can overwhelm people.
Hey ecstatic hamster, just had a question here, the study you post show that the rats' brain weight was reduced on the EFAD diet, was wondering if this is problematic?BRAIN LIPID MODIFICATIONS INDUCED BY ESSENTIAL FATTY ACID DEFICIENCY IN GROWING MALE AND FEMALE RATS
BRAIN LIPID MODIFICATIONS INDUCED BY ESSENTIAL FATTY ACID DEFICIENCY IN GROWING MALE AND FEMALE RATS
the brain contained satisfactory unsaturated fats on its own, even without any dietary EFA.
Parsley is supposed to be quite high in vitC, and other veggies too.Meat and fish contain vitamin C also. So do fruits other than citrus.
Interrresting question.... and forms of non acid vitamine C... I think they are bound to calcium or magnesium...what do you all know about ascorbyl palmitate?
Hey ecstatic hamster, just had a question here, the study you post show that the rats' brain weight was reduced on the EFAD diet, was wondering if this is problematic?