Elize
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It differs from person to person. Night time doses keep me awake and give me restless legs
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Of T4? Or T4/T3 mix? I've been taking T4 at night a few days, doesn't seem to disturb my sleep but also noted less, or slower effects when taken too close to dinner.It differs from person to person. Night time doses keep me awake and give me restless legs
Compounding pharmacies are the way to go.Where can we get Slow release T3? Thanks
This is a good point, props for always questioning everything. Time-release formulations would allow you to get to a desired range with minimum imbalances (contrary to loading doses), but the proposed half-life of T3 is indeed confusing.Supposedly the half-life of T3 is 24 hours, so I honestly don't understand why you'd even need a time-release preparation. It seems just taking it once or at most twice daily should be enough to keep relatively steady levels, or perhaps minor fluctuations matter that much?
Of T4? Or T4/T3 mix? I've been taking T4 at night a few days, doesn't seem to disturb my sleep but also noted less, or slower effects when taken too close to dinner.
What is TYROMAX???Thanks, been considering IdeaLabs products too. Unless my calcs are off, one drop of TyroMax would be the equivalent of 1/7 of a grain of NDT so would be a pretty good fit for this protocol.
What would a physiological T4 dose be?
Do you take your T4 with food?Dr Blanchard is not with us anymore, but his books are great.
I take T4 only, but have tried every thyroid protcol going over the years 2008-2015. Now i take T4 only at bedtime.
I find T4 works much better if taken at bedtime. I dont have any sleep issues and i just feel it fits in with when we naturally make our own T4.
TSH peaks in the nighttime, this stimulates the body to produce the T4 for the next day. This also has a knock on effect on cortsol production. T4 and cortisol work together. Low thyroid patients often record low cortisol production in the morning, when really it should be at its highest.
So giving T4 at bedtime means you are working with your circadian rhythm.
When i used T3 with the T4 i found less was much more effective. So i would use 2.5mcg approx in the morning.
My hormone journey has been a long one and in the last year i have started testosterone treatment as well. I now realise testosterone is an important factor in getting thyroid to work well. I am doing better than ever in my life and am now aged 48.
The OP has good thyroid figures, but a high TSH. How old are you ? I assume you dont feel that well, hence you are looking to try some T4.
The thyroid journey is a long descent. I mean the thyroid starts to stutter along time before it really shows up with really bad symptoms. Lots of young people dont realise they have a thyroid issue, and instead get diagnosed with mental health problems. It happened to me aged 21 and it wasnt until i was 36 that i started to look under the thyroid bonnet.
When the tsh starts to climb it can indicate the thyroid is starting to struggle and so it ramps up conversion. Hence you get good FT3 no's and FT4 is ok as well. But going forward in time the thyroid struggles even more and TSH will go higher, but maybe conversion isnt as good and you get more symptoms.
Dr Blanchard is not with us anymore, but his books are great.
I take T4 only, but have tried every thyroid protcol going over the years 2008-2015. Now i take T4 only at bedtime.
I find T4 works much better if taken at bedtime. I dont have any sleep issues and i just feel it fits in with when we naturally make our own T4.
TSH peaks in the nighttime, this stimulates the body to produce the T4 for the next day. This also has a knock on effect on cortsol production. T4 and cortisol work together. Low thyroid patients often record low cortisol production in the morning, when really it should be at its highest.
So giving T4 at bedtime means you are working with your circadian rhythm..
Do you take your T4 with food?
Thanks for your input, appreciate it! I'm 34 and suspect I've been hypothyroid since at least age 17. I also take levo around bedtime and haven't noticed any sleep problems, the only time I had insomnia was once when I took it in the late afternoon.Dr Blanchard is not with us anymore, but his books are great.
I take T4 only, but have tried every thyroid protcol going over the years 2008-2015. Now i take T4 only at bedtime.
I find T4 works much better if taken at bedtime. I dont have any sleep issues and i just feel it fits in with when we naturally make our own T4.
TSH peaks in the nighttime, this stimulates the body to produce the T4 for the next day. This also has a knock on effect on cortsol production. T4 and cortisol work together. Low thyroid patients often record low cortisol production in the morning, when really it should be at its highest.
So giving T4 at bedtime means you are working with your circadian rhythm.
When i used T3 with the T4 i found less was much more effective. So i would use 2.5mcg approx in the morning.
My hormone journey has been a long one and in the last year i have started testosterone treatment as well. I now realise testosterone is an important factor in getting thyroid to work well. I am doing better than ever in my life and am now aged 48.
The OP has good thyroid figures, but a high TSH. How old are you ? I assume you dont feel that well, hence you are looking to try some T4.
The thyroid journey is a long descent. I mean the thyroid starts to stutter along time before it really shows up with really bad symptoms. Lots of young people dont realise they have a thyroid issue, and instead get diagnosed with mental health problems. It happened to me aged 21 and it wasnt until i was 36 that i started to look under the thyroid bonnet.
When the tsh starts to climb it can indicate the thyroid is starting to struggle and so it ramps up conversion. Hence you get good FT3 no's and FT4 is ok as well. But going forward in time the thyroid struggles even more and TSH will go higher, but maybe conversion isnt as good and you get more symptoms.