Peatogenic
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So we have a society/culture designed on purpose or by accident to cause the maximum ammount of meaningless work, relationships, sense of purpose, goals in life, etc. Ray has written about this and haidut has posted good papers and thoughts about this also. The Korean philosopher Byung-Chul Han has good theories about all this.
On top of that we add that it is very beneficial for the establishment to make people believe the problem in their heads it is because their parents or childhood or traumas or abusive environment INSTEAD OF seeing that we have created an absolutely non sense society and that we are being chemically and culturally emmasculated.
Then we have a massive ammount of toxins and endocrine disruptors thrown at use which it is scientifically proven that lower metabolism, androgens, etc...
And then you think people's mental health problems are because they haven't processed "a trauma". Well, it is normal, as I said, it is so deeply buried in our culture that it's really difficult to escape.
From another thread :
Peat made a statement a few years ago that is eerily similar to the "ethereal storage" and/or Akashic story above.
Childhood Stress
"..."Nothing is stored [in the organism]; it's like the pasts are all present in the same room, and we periodically have a different perspective on them. When the present balance of stuff, toxicants, euphoriants, etc., is good, you can think and feel what you want to about things." —Ray Peat
Whatever. I'm glad you are feeling better no matter which was the path that healed you. That's what's most important after all.
I never said that people's mental health problems are because they haven't processed trauma.
I find it baffling that you put trauma in quotation marks, when Ray certainly believes in trauma. He just doesn't believe that it's stored in the body like some kind of phantom force. Neither do I. We have studies showing trauma exists and negatively impacts us.
Again, I think you may need to research trauma disorders and how they physically manifest. The truth is that despite all the negative variables you listed, only ten to twelve percent of the North American population has dissociation and dissociative disorders. I think you may be talking about consensus trance and the average stress of being alive in a stressful culture. I'm talking about (C)PTSD.
I don't see a culture that proseletyzes trauma. Trauma is rarely talked about as a causitive factor (which sets off the hormone cascade) for conditions like anxiety, depression, OCD. Most people who actually are diagnosable (whether I agree with having these labels or not) as CPTSD or PTSD or DID or any of the personality disorders don't even know it's related to trauma till years after getting different treatments. Arriving at CPTSD or PTSD is often the last place.
It seems rather contradictory, listing cultural authoritarianism as influencing the organism, but denying that environmental traumas are a real thing or is just something thats imagined to have influence. That stance is actually dissociative from the self and denies the interplay of all things. To imply that acknowledging trauma is "emasculization" is itself a cultural assumption that can lead to dissociated men who don't really wholly function. It's a kind of culturally-imposed armoring that we don't have to accept as true or good.
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