Record numbers of Western citizens identify as LGBTQ

[InChristAlone]

Just my own personal viewpoint, but as a long time agnostic I find the sticks of Christianity far more compelling than the carrots.

Don't meant to be dense but I'm unsure what you mean.

 

[SamYo123]

Just because you say this with certainty doesn't make it true.

Its not what im saying its what the data in reality says

 

[Chad_Catholic]

Social media just brought out womans nature that we didn't know too much about before it came out

Guys too. Women desperate for attention, men desperate for sex

 

[SamYo123]

Guys too. Women desperate for attention, men desperate for sex

Sorta, but low value men are desperate, not so much the high value man.. they have to turn alot down because of the amount of options available the other 80% became more desperate because they have pretty much 0 options if porn, and escorts werent a thing we would have so many incels shooting up the place

 

[TheCalciumCad]

if porn, and escorts werent a thing we would have so many incels shooting up the place

If porn weren't a thing incels would cease to exist and there would be no "low value" men. Theres nothing wrong with escorts either unless you're just using them to avoid intimacy. Hypergamy represents female shadow behaviour, only low quality women act like that. Just like how men of all ages prefer women around 22, yet that doesn't translate into reality either.

 

[InChristAlone]

Sorta, but low value men are desperate, not so much the high value man.. they have to turn alot down because of the amount of options available the other 80% became more desperate because they have pretty much 0 options if porn, and escorts werent a thing we would have so many incels shooting up the place

I'd argue we'd have way less 'low value' men without porn or escorts or the internet. The low value man wasn't a thing until it was fine and dandy for a man to spend his life in front of a computer screen.

 

[InChristAlone]

If porn weren't a thing incels would cease to exist and there would be no "low value" men. Theres nothing wrong with escorts either unless you're just using them to avoid intimacy. Hypergamy represents female shadow behaviour, only low quality women act like that. Just like how men of all ages prefer women around 22, yet that doesn't translate into reality either.

Haha jynx! Though I don't quite understand hypergamy to comment on that. When I 'levelled' up it was because I was just far more attracted to my husband. And that life wasn't without challenge. The previous guy would have been the safer choice.

 

[SamYo123]

I'd argue we'd have way less 'low value' men without porn or escorts or the internet. The low value man wasn't a thing until it was fine and dandy for a man to spend his life in front of a computer screen.

Yes thats kinda correct however, most men do not meet womans standards now adays. So they have to scroll through porn, to keep that sexual tension down. Imagine if they had no outlet. Feminism has got woman earning more, so men earning less, so they struggle to find a man who is earning more. Woman want men who are superior to them in every way, as nature intended. Woman have so many options now, they removed the bottom 80% of men, and only want the guys who dont want to settle

 

[SamYo123]

Haha jynx! Though I don't quite understand hypergamy to comment on that. When I 'levelled' up it was because I was just far more attracted to my husband. And that life wasn't without challenge. The previous guy would have been the safer choice.

You said your previous boyfriend wasnt that attractive and now hes know longer your boyfriend, you found a guy more attatractive, that is hypergamy you found a better option. Thats normal and thats nature, we want whats best for ourselves and kids. (survival)

 

[SamYo123]

If porn weren't a thing incels would cease to exist and there would be no "low value" men. Theres nothing wrong with escorts either unless you're just using them to avoid intimacy. Hypergamy represents female shadow behaviour, only low quality women act like that. Just like how men of all ages prefer women around 22, yet that doesn't translate into reality either.

Men that cant get sex, because of woman standards, they need some outlet.

 

[Sweatshop Toad]

Don't meant to be dense but I'm unsure what you mean.

I’m saying that in my eyes the threat of going to Hell is a far greater motivator to convert than the prospect of just not going to Heaven.

 

[TheCalciumCad]

Men that cant get sex, because of woman standards, they need some outlet.

Getting sex is only difficult if you have no social life, which porn will make 10x harder for various reasons. Sexual energy is supposed to be channelled into building and creative pursuits (or finding a gf) not wasted on porn. Which is what attracts women anyway how much ENERGY you can generate.

I'd argue we'd have way less 'low value' men without porn or escorts or the internet. The low value man wasn't a thing until it was fine and dandy for a man to spend his life in front of a computer screen.

I don't think even women will ever fully understand how powerful porn is at tapping into the male psyche. Nothing will sap a mans energy quite as efficiently as infinite access to porn. I guess a vibrator and romance novels are the closest comparison for women

 

[SamYo123]

Getting sex is only difficult if you have no social life, which porn will make 10x harder for various reasons. Sexual energy is supposed to be channelled into building and creative pursuits (or finding a gf) not wasted on porn. Which is what attracts women anyway how much ENERGY you can generate.



I don't think even women will ever fully understand how powerful porn is at tapping into the male psyche. Nothing will sap a mans energy quite as efficiently as infinite access to porn. I guess a vibrator and romance novels are the closest comparison for women

What percentage of men do you think is being swiped on by woman on tinder right now?

 

[InChristAlone]

Getting sex is only difficult if you have no social life, which porn will make 10x harder for various reasons. Sexual energy is supposed to be channelled into building and creative pursuits (or finding a gf) not wasted on porn. Which is what attracts women anyway how much ENERGY you can generate.



I don't think even women will ever fully understand how powerful porn is at tapping into the male psyche. Nothing will sap a mans energy quite as efficiently as infinite access to porn. I guess a vibrator and romance novels are the closest comparison for women

Women can be addicted to porn as well. I've had my fair share of experience with it and it was extremely damaging. It may not be as draining but it's definitely not good for women either. Men can also get addicted to things like clash of clans. My husband was playing it every single chance he got. He got rid of his smart phone and our marriage has never ever been better (other than the honeymoon period).

You said your previous boyfriend wasnt that attractive and now hes know longer your boyfriend, you found a guy more attatractive, that is hypergamy you found a better option. Thats normal and thats nature, we want whats best for ourselves and kids. (survival)

Yeah a better option for the future for sure, I was afraid my ex would have died young due to immune suppressing drugs he had to be on as well.

I’m saying that in my eyes the threat of going to Hell is a far greater motivator to convert than the prospect of just not going to Heaven.

That's interesting! I don't hear that very often. The fear of death may come up, but a lot of people hate the hell fire and brimstone of a lot of churches. You may like pastor Voddie Baucham, he's the only southern Baptist I follow, his sermons go viral on a few channels who splice clips together.

 

[SamYo123]

there you go then, hypergamy.... social media allowed men to understand womans nature... that wasnt known too much without it..

 

[Sweatshop Toad]

Women can be addicted to porn as well. I've had my fair share of experience with it and it was extremely damaging. It may not be as draining but it's definitely not good for women either. Men can also get addicted to things like clash of clans. My husband was playing it every single chance he got. He got rid of his smart phone and our marriage has never ever been better (other than the honeymoon period).

Yeah a better option for the future for sure, I was afraid my ex would have died young due to immune suppressing drugs he had to be on as well.



That's interesting! I don't hear that very often. The fear of death may come up, but a lot of people hate the hell fire and brimstone of a lot of churches. You may like pastor Voddie Baucham, he's the only southern Baptist I follow, his sermons go viral on a few channels who splice clips together.

For me, its Pastor Steven Anderson

 

[Ritchie]

strippers don’t do that, and no one takes their small kids to strip clubs, yet we have drag queen story hour in public libraries in major cities and woke parents dragging (no pun intended) their kids drag shows in bars.

Have you seen what small kids are watching on TikTok? Alot of twerking just for starters. Are you comfortable with that? Kids as young as 4 and 5 and up watching, mimicking and making their own tik toks. Alot more exposure there than drag queen story hour at public libraries lol.. Pole dancing has become a sport of sorts and young kids are doing it, and so forth. The point is that "drag queen story hour in public libraries" is the least of your concerns for the youth. That sort of thing, like the rocky horror picture show, is perceived by kids as dress up. It doesn't even register that it is anything else at that age. Not so much for strippers on tik tok etc. So I think your energy is misguided here.

There is a huge overlap between sexual deviancy in adulthood and a history of childhood abuse and/or neglect

Well yeah, but there is no lack of sexual deviancy/fetishes etc in perfectly normally brought up adults. Obviously porn, pop culture etc contributes to that, but to focus on LGTBQ as what's at fault is naive at best.

One thing I’ve noticed in your posts over and over is the argument “well it happens or happened before, so we should just accept it”, which isn’t very sound logic.

When I say something like that it's in context responding to the shock and ore, the catastrophisation, the "omg have you seen what is happening this is the degradation of society, everything is going to crumble away" type stuff. The title of this thread is the context "record numbers", but really it's nothing new. And that is the point I am making. I'm reminding whoever I'm responding to that it's been around forever and society has done just fine, hasn't crumbled, everyone has co-existed. So you can calm down. It's very on trend atm for content creators to talk about this stuff as if it's all new and the end of days and social morals are being eroded like never before.. and people are lapping it up and buying into the narrative, so they are making alot of money out of doing it on youtube, tiktok, podcasts etc. But it's like anything, you shine a light on something that has been going on forever and it seems all new when it's not. You probably didn't think twice about the rocky horror picture show when you were a kid, or a drag show at the local pub until now because, well, who gives a ***t lol why would you care unless you are being encouraged to. Have you ever thought about buying a certain car, and then all of a sudden it seems that car is everywhere you look? Similar concept. And even though there is definitely a hightened push for more acceptance in society of LGTBQ expression, it shouldn't be a source of anxiety for you because, as I point out, it has always been around and the world hasn't ended. Just maybe not as in the lime light as it is right now.

 

[SamYo123]

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0RchlofVHUs

 

[InChristAlone]

Have you seen what small kids are watching on TikTok? Alot of twerking just for starters. Are you comfortable with that? Kids as young as 4 and 5 and up watching, mimicking and making their own tik toks. Alot more exposure there than drag queen story hour at public libraries lol.. Pole dancing has become a sport of sorts and young kids are doing it, and so forth. The point is that "drag queen story hour in public libraries" is the least of your concerns for the youth. That sort of thing, like the rocky horror picture show, is perceived by kids as dress up. It doesn't even register that it is anything else at that age. Not so much for strippers on tik tok etc. So I think your energy is misguided here.

Well yeah, but there is no lack of sexual deviancy/fetishes etc in perfectly normally brought up adults. Obviously porn, pop culture etc contributes to that, but to focus on LGTBQ as what's at fault is naive at best.

When I say something like that it's in context responding to the shock and ore, the catastrophisation, the "omg have you seen what is happening this is the degradation of society, everything is going to crumble away" type stuff. The title of this thread is the context "record numbers", but really it's nothing new. And that is the point I am making. I'm reminding whoever I'm responding to that it's been around forever and society has done just fine, hasn't crumbled, everyone has co-existed. So you can calm down. It's very on trend atm for content creators to talk about this stuff as if it's all new and the end of days and social morals are being eroded like never before.. and people are lapping it up and buying into the narrative, so they are making alot of money out of doing it on youtube, tiktok, podcasts etc. But it's like anything, you shine a light a on something that has been going on forever and it seems all new when it's not. You probably didn't think twice about the rocky horror picture show when you were a kid, or a drag show at the local pub until now because, well, who gives a ***t lol why would you care unless you are being encouraged to. Have you ever thought about buying a certain car, and then all of a sudden it seems that car is everywhere you look? Similar concept. And even though there is definitely a hightened push for more acceptance in society of LGTBQ expression, it shouldn't be a source of anxiety for you because, as I point out, it has always been around and the world hasn't ended. Just maybe not as in the lime light as it is right now.

When I was a teenager which honestly wasn't that long ago the worst I ever saw was straight people sleeping around at school. Albeit I wasn't a partier and social media was just getting started but still. Sex was relegated to music videos and movies or raunchy porn websites that your parents would condemn you for. I didn't even know any gay person in high school and I know they were there just in the closet.

 

[Sweatshop Toad]

When I was a teenager which honestly wasn't that long ago the worst I ever saw was straight people sleeping around at school. Albeit I wasn't a partier and social media was just getting started but still. Sex was relegated to music videos and movies or raunchy porn websites that your parents would condemn you for. I didn't even know any gay person in high school and I know they were there just in the closet.

I don’t think theres any way to stem the tide of moral relativism other than the inevitable cyclical collapse which results. Once a society gets as decadent as ours there’s almost no chance of saving it, the only instance I can think of where they turned it around was Germany in the 30’s vs Germany in the 20’s and that will never happen again because of how tainted the brand of nationalism has become.