SQu
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I'm sorry to read this, I liked her writing and yes, I did put on a lot of weight once I stopped harmful dieting, but I think I would have anyway. As far as I can tell there is value in getting into a healthier mental state about food, it's good to see that there is a wisdom to the body, meaning in cravings, learning to trust yourself and stop the self-loathing is priceless; and I am not sure a weight rebound is avoidable if you have driven your thyroid down that low. I really sympathize with people who had really bad experiences, like you @Jennifer. And really enormous rebounds, especially those who had been anorexic, what a painful thing to happen.
I don't think there are any simple answers, any easy ways to heal, but perhaps some of it could have been avoided. Hard to say. It's hard to tell people who are damaging themselves with the excessive cult of thinness, what else to do that's a better idea. Get fat and take years to heal then gradually lose the weight? That's what I'm doing and I do think it is the best of all the bad experiences. But it's not easy. And I can't even take credit because it wasn't even a choice, this is just what happened, no matter how hard I tried to heal faster.
And like you @Dutchie, some things got worse. They've since got better again but it took ages. Someone commented that the cortisol was restrained when calories were, and when I raised calories there was a rebound that would have explained the weight gain, and probably many of the symptoms. Estrogen explained a lot too. I still have too many signs of high cortisol. But improving.
What would I have done differently with hindsight? Other than not get myself into such a trap of dieting and low thyroid to begin with? (Which I could only have done by reading Ray Peat, which I would not have been doing) I really don't know how I could have done better. I tried everything in my power, but my body pushed back for so long. Healing just took ages. It reminds me of the saying, when is the best time to plant a tree? Twenty years ago. What's the next best time? Now.
On the upside, when things do start to improve, it's rewarding. And you know that you have taken care of every health issue as much as you can, taken every bit of prevention against future health issues possible. Debunked so many stupid dieting mantras, learned so much about what serves our bodies. Also, you have to have learned a lot to even be open to trying to understand Peat, otherwise the sugar is good thing - you wouldn't even get beyond that, it's too weird. What I've learned about health on this journey has helped my family and friends in ways I never would have been able to before.
I don't think there are any simple answers, any easy ways to heal, but perhaps some of it could have been avoided. Hard to say. It's hard to tell people who are damaging themselves with the excessive cult of thinness, what else to do that's a better idea. Get fat and take years to heal then gradually lose the weight? That's what I'm doing and I do think it is the best of all the bad experiences. But it's not easy. And I can't even take credit because it wasn't even a choice, this is just what happened, no matter how hard I tried to heal faster.
And like you @Dutchie, some things got worse. They've since got better again but it took ages. Someone commented that the cortisol was restrained when calories were, and when I raised calories there was a rebound that would have explained the weight gain, and probably many of the symptoms. Estrogen explained a lot too. I still have too many signs of high cortisol. But improving.
What would I have done differently with hindsight? Other than not get myself into such a trap of dieting and low thyroid to begin with? (Which I could only have done by reading Ray Peat, which I would not have been doing) I really don't know how I could have done better. I tried everything in my power, but my body pushed back for so long. Healing just took ages. It reminds me of the saying, when is the best time to plant a tree? Twenty years ago. What's the next best time? Now.
On the upside, when things do start to improve, it's rewarding. And you know that you have taken care of every health issue as much as you can, taken every bit of prevention against future health issues possible. Debunked so many stupid dieting mantras, learned so much about what serves our bodies. Also, you have to have learned a lot to even be open to trying to understand Peat, otherwise the sugar is good thing - you wouldn't even get beyond that, it's too weird. What I've learned about health on this journey has helped my family and friends in ways I never would have been able to before.
Wonderful, so true. Wisdom can result from these struggles, some lessons are so valuable.If our motivation for doing what we do is based on love for ourselves and our lives, it's totally healthy in my eyes.
Absolutely true. The wisdom in cravings.To advise someone to go against their bodies food cravings has never been proven to create a healthier organism with greater longevity
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