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Thanks pboy + NathanK
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NathanK said:Narouz, you're right, I don't think I've ever heard Ray focus explicitly on dopamine. It's just many of the methods and substances he refers via lowering serotonin and prolactin are ironically dopamine agonists so I guess it's implied, but not necessarily the "goal".
narouz said:I'm trying to think if he has had any negative things to say about dopamine... [/font]
GAF said:I have had good results from L-dopa especially in the reduction of prolactin and probably serotonin. I don't think I have excess yet because I don't have an overwhelming urge to buy stuff on TV. I think pboy is correct about dopamine based on my personal experience to date. I have had no negatives.
NathanK said:narouz said:I'm trying to think if he has had any negative things to say about dopamine... [/font]
The only thing I've heard him mention is "dopamine toxicity" in an Herb Doctors interview and that was partly because I had been looking for his thoughts on dopamine. Im guessing he was referring to dopamine metabolism I had mentioned or Parkinson's which doesn't metabolize it well either.
haidut said:The term "catecholamine toxicity" is well-known in the medical field. One example of such toxicity would be to get a dopaminergic crisis or adrenergic storm.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrenergic_storm
Serotonin syndrome ironically causes the same symptoms as catecholamine toxicity but without affecting the heart. At least that's what medicine says. However, the catecholamine crises are a lot rarer than serotonin syndrome and unless you are abusing cocaine or some other illegal substance you probably have no reason to worry about dopamine toxicity.
Greg says said:Thanks pboy + NathanK
NathanK said:Greg says said:Thanks pboy + NathanK
Greg, there was some good information on tianeptine in on this page that I just ran across. I'm not sure why it works so well for some people and pretty benign for others. I'm about to try it out in the next couple weeks. viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4328&start=345#p60107
I'm very glad you survived. :)Greg says said:I befriended a kid at school who was being bullied and beaten by his father. I sensed his pain. He went on to abuse me, mentally and physically, I let him (learned helplessness) and I couldn't tell my parents because my mum was depressed and I didn't want to cause her more pain. So I gave up and let it happen. This guy is in prison for attempted murder now, but I still empathise for him.
pboy said:I feel you greg, I suppose I was/kinda am the same way. When you realize...your own value, that you deserve what you are...as good as that is, you will be more careful with how you use your energy. A lot of people aren't worthy of it...focus on those that are, that have harmony in mind, or else you're leaking energy towards the same kind of forces that would cause in the future more PTSD style things
theres really only a few types of people...those absolutely hardened into their inertia, those with inertia that might have a slight chance to change, elevate, neutral people that will just do whatever those around them are or however they get built of paid, people that desire levity within but still don't know how to apply it or have consistency, and those that are full on about levity. Might be strange words to use, but you'll know what I mean, and eventually you can identify immediately. Don't waste energy on the gross people, its feeding your enemy in a sense. Serotonin is like basically moving towards the grave, and dopamine is moving towards a happy satisfied soul, that can eventually pass on in peace and happiness and a knowing. A lot of things people think is 'love' is not love at all, and its subtley toxic. Like...'oh pooor guy, here...let me comfort you..oh so sad' it might seem like love, but it isn't. Its more towards the grave than to heaven. Its promoting victim hood, which is a slap at there being ANY higher force or meaning to life or that people CAN change via changing themselves. You never want people that have a dragging energy, no matter what. You want people that create drive, hope in a tangible way, like direct course of action and understanding, that can actually coach you, be on your team of progression, not tranqulize you
Avoid serotonergic people, to where that's their wiring, they're pretty much.,.if over the age of 30, a hopeless case, or would only change if the whole society did and they were forced to
haidut said:Greg says said:pboy said:School alone is like...a profound trauma that most people never get over, or realize its a trauma. Combine with parents and their BS and 'rules' and 'helpful advice', and religion...its basically, people are all HIGHLY traumatized
school was crazy in the UK during the Thatcher years. high authoritarian and disciplined. the 'short, sharp' shock' approach. my school was all about survival. from teachers and other kids. 1 teacher is in gaol for being a paedo. I was terrified going to school and faked illness a lot. I got stuck in this pattern and now carry it over into adult life. I fear jobs and being stuck doing something I don't want to do. school was prison. it f**ked me up.
I'd like to do some LSD therapy.
Lisuride is safer and without the hallucinogenic effects of LSD. It is also legal to import and possess, at least in the US. I think it's still available in Europe as an approved drug for Parkinson so for you might be even easier to get and use.
Greg says said:I've tried Cypro. Knocked me out for sleeping but wasted the next day in a zombie state. Couldn't speak.
I still occasionally have nightmares relating to things 30+ years ago. Its strange how the body holds onto things (things that we would be better off forgetting). I can't recall where I read it, but serotonin was related to our 'defensive shield'. Known as Wei chi in Chinese medicine. I feel I have zero defensive shield. I feel very raw, open and thinned skinned. From feeling a burning sensation from EMFs to being effected by other peoples moods. I feel people are attracted to this and can sense it... I'm always being approached by strangers, whether to ask directions or within a few moments of meeting someone they are telling me personal details about their lives.
Greg says said:I have complex PTSD (traumas over a long period of time from being in a situation I couldn't escape). My memory is very sharp. Especially my younger days. I can still taste tastes from being a child and feel feelings very strongly. And yes, my memory for everyday stuff is pretty poor. Maybe all that high cortisol erodes the brain.
I also got all the trimmings of high serotonin; learned helplessness, hyper vigilance, crave isolation, defensive, feel other peoples pain, strongly antiauthoritarian etc. Finding RP's work has transformed my perspective on the condition though, very interesting findings. Tianeptine helped more than anything I've tried. Interestingly my mums appendix burst when she had me (appendix has something to do with serotonin?). She also had ECT. The only time I've ever felt zero anxiety was when I took Phenibut. But that stuff ends up biting you in the ****. I felt so productive and at peace. I would love to feel this way through a safer method (GABA feelings).
I would love to know more about serotonin, trauma, PTSD, learned helplessness. There is some really interesting stuff on the forum.
NathanK said:Greg, yes, it's vital that you start to learn to create boundaries with people, life, and all relationships (friend, family, work, or therwise). Decide what you'll allow yourself to engage in. As Pboy said, knowing your value is very important to understanding this.
James_001 said:post 118368NathanK said:Greg, yes, it's vital that you start to learn to create boundaries with people, life, and all relationships (friend, family, work, or therwise). Decide what you'll allow yourself to engage in. As Pboy said, knowing your value is very important to understanding this.
Can you explain more about "boundaries"
I have heard people talk about this but never really understood the concept