The Failed Experiment Of Covid Lockdowns

[Max23]

Imagine what they have in store in case Biden loses in November...

How about Biden starts demanding stuff: "

1. Give statehood to Washington, DC and Puerto Rico
2. Divide California into five states “to more accurately represent its population in the Senate”
3. Require Supreme Court justices to retire at 70
4. Eliminate the Electoral College" (“Bipartisan” Washington Insiders Reveal Their Plan for Chaos if Trump Wins the Election)

A fascinating article from Whitney Webb and an interview about it on The Last American Vagabond. This event has been exercised like the coronacrisis. The media is also getting people used to the idea that Trump might not leave office if he loses.

 

[tankasnowgod]

I think blockchain based crypto currency will be used, you can have negative interest rates that way. The unemployed will receive crypto currency tokens, a form of universal basic income, they will be required to carry out "community" orientated tasks to receive tokens, the tasks will be required as an illusory contribution to society.

The middle class and elites will pay for it, obviously the elites will be gaming the system, their paying will be like their philanthropy, predatory philanthropy, illusory, they create money out of nothing as it stands, this is easier again with a centralized crypto currency. The middle class will be reduced in size because of this.

All these things you describe already happen in the current system. No need to transition to cryptos for any of this.

 

[haidut]

How about Biden starts demanding stuff: "

1. Give statehood to Washington, DC and Puerto Rico
2. Divide California into five states “to more accurately represent its population in the Senate”
3. Require Supreme Court justices to retire at 70
4. Eliminate the Electoral College" (“Bipartisan” Washington Insiders Reveal Their Plan for Chaos if Trump Wins the Election)

A fascinating article from Whitney Webb and an interview about it on The Last American Vagabond. This event has been exercised like the coronacrisis. The media is also getting people used to the idea that Trump might not leave office if he loses.

Yeah, I read that one but all of these things require Senate, Supreme Court, executive power, etc involvement. Biden and his cronies currently only control Congress. If Biden is not the POTUS then how can any of these things can happen? Unless there is basically another Civil War...

 

[tankasnowgod]

How about Biden starts demanding stuff: "

1. Give statehood to Washington, DC and Puerto Rico
2. Divide California into five states “to more accurately represent its population in the Senate”
3. Require Supreme Court justices to retire at 70
4. Eliminate the Electoral College" (“Bipartisan” Washington Insiders Reveal Their Plan for Chaos if Trump Wins the Election)

A fascinating article from Whitney Webb and an interview about it on The Last American Vagabond. This event has been exercised like the coronacrisis. The media is also getting people used to the idea that Trump might not leave office if he loses.

Why not demand the destruction of the moon and the colonization of Jupiter too? Biden doesn't have any official political power at the moment, and the President doesn't have the power or authority to do any of those things.

Washington DC will never become a state. No one in power wants that. It's technically the government that was formed in Washington DC (that franchised it's power out into the states and over the republic) that is doing everything in government that appears unconstitutional (eg, traffic tickets, income taxes, drug laws, jailing people for victimless crimes, etc).

 

[Max23]

How about Biden starts demanding stuff: "

1. Give statehood to Washington, DC and Puerto Rico
2. Divide California into five states “to more accurately represent its population in the Senate”
3. Require Supreme Court justices to retire at 70
4. Eliminate the Electoral College" (“Bipartisan” Washington Insiders Reveal Their Plan for Chaos if Trump Wins the Election)

A fascinating article from Whitney Webb and an interview about it on The Last American Vagabond. This event has been exercised like the coronacrisis. The media is also getting people used to the idea that Trump might not leave office if he loses.

I just discovered Whitney Webb. She has some amazing information (also, also) and has pieced together a lot of what the Epstein situation really was. They were blackmailing key political and societal figures for decades, some of whom they later went to make important. It has a lot of maffia ties. Roy Cohn was a key figure in it and Trump was involved, who along with other important politicians might be blackmailed. So might be Alex Jones. Trump was accused of child rape. This video has a nice mind map about whos who. Her website is under attack, must have a lot of truth. Those are some really informative videos and articles I linked and with information I haven´t found elsewhere.

 

[Max23]

Yeah, I read that one but all of these things require Senate, Supreme Court, executive power, etc involvement. Biden and his cronies currently only control Congress. If Biden is not the POTUS then how can any of these things can happen? Unless there is basically another Civil War...

My last post might explain it, that is Whitney Webb´s work. If Trump is in on it and the powers that shouldn´t be activate all their chess pieces. Civil war I think is possible. Anyways the presidential elections will be a massive event, like the corona crisis.

 

[Max23]

Why not demand the destruction of the moon and the colonization of Jupiter too? Biden doesn't have any official political power at the moment, and the President doesn't have the power or authority to do any of those things.

Washington DC will never become a state. No one in power wants that. It's technically the government that was formed in Washington DC (that franchised it's power out into the states and over the republic) that is doing everything in government that appears unconstitutional (eg, traffic tickets, income taxes, drug laws, jailing people for victimless crimes, etc).

They have to have some sense. Those at power are mostly saying random stuff, that is not based on reality, but it has to be in this realm, so they can´t ask for Jupiter. Lots of stuff that was crazy before is now reality. Like people wearing masks and abusing those who don´t or the police entering people´s home´s because of Facebook posts.

Those kind of demands would happen only when one has military backing. What other stuff haven´t the organisers of this excercise not told us? How are protests and defund the police waging into it? There have been public voices thinking it is necessary that Trump should be removed by the military. The worsening of the corona crisis might bring in more authoritative control. I am sure the globalists want to destroy USA first and this is a great opportunity.

 

[tankasnowgod]

They have to have some sense. Those at power are mostly saying random stuff, that is not based on reality, but it has to be in this realm, so they can´t ask for Jupiter. Lots of stuff that was crazy before is now reality. Like people wearing masks and abusing those who don´t or the police entering people´s home´s because of Facebook posts.

Those kind of demands would happen only when one has military backing. What other stuff haven´t the organisers of this excercise not told us? How are protests and defund the police waging into it? There have been public voices thinking it is necessary that Trump should be removed by the military. The worsening of the corona crisis might bring in more authoritative control. I am sure the globalists want to destroy USA first and this is a great opportunity.

I don't think your posts are all that well thought out.

If you have military backing..... why just make fringe changes to The Constitution? Why not a full scale coup or takeover? If you want to go slower, all those changes would take decades to implement, if not longer.

If you read "Pawns In The Game" by William Guy Carr, he describes a centuries old plan to take over the world, infiltrating all governments (at various levels), corporations, the media, schools, and other levels of power. Why would you think Trump is in on that? While he might be, his entire campaign was Anti-Globalist/Pro-Nationalist. You should be looking at Presidents like Bush and Clinton, that not only constantly sang the praises of the United Nations and were members of the Tri-Lateral Commission, but also ushered in very pro globalist legislation like NAFTA.

If you know Cathy O'Brien's story, she says that while a mind control slave, she was told explicitly that Trump was not part of the NWO plan- Trump: One of US? - TRANCE Formation Of America

Of course, the whole idea of "Military Backing" exposes the biggest hole in any plot to take over the world, and essentially make slaves of 99% of the population. In any revolution, if the military and/or police stand with the people, leasers usually fall swiftly. Thanks to the 2nd Amendment, the united states of America still has a well armed militia to boot. Members of the police and military come from the general population. If they were ordered to kills their fellow citizens, including their friends and family, would they do it? This is the flaw. The personal bodyguards of the elite come from common people. This is why Ben Fulford, for example, is confident in the people eventually winning, because of this fatal flaw.

 

[Regina]

Yeah, for sure that's why th

I don't think your posts are all that well thought out.

If you have military backing..... why just make fringe changes to The Constitution? Why not a full scale coup or takeover? If you want to go slower, all those changes would take decades to implement, if not longer.

If you read "Pawns In The Game" by William Guy Carr, he describes a centuries old plan to take over the world, infiltrating all governments (at various levels), corporations, the media, schools, and other levels of power. Why would you think Trump is in on that? While he might be, his entire campaign was Anti-Globalist/Pro-Nationalist. You should be looking at Presidents like Bush and Clinton, that not only constantly sang the praises of the United Nations and were members of the Tri-Lateral Commission, but also ushered in very pro globalist legislation like NAFTA.

If you know Cathy O'Brien's story, she says that while a mind control slave, she was told explicitly that Trump was not part of the NWO plan- Trump: One of US? - TRANCE Formation Of America

Of course, the whole idea of "Military Backing" exposes the biggest hole in any plot to take over the world, and essentially make slaves of 99% of the population. In any revolution, if the military and/or police stand with the people, leasers usually fall swiftly. Thanks to the 2nd Amendment, the united states of America still has a well armed militia to boot. Members of the police and military come from the general population. If they were ordered to kills their fellow citizens, including their friends and family, would they do it? This is the flaw. The personal bodyguards of the elite come from common people. This is why Ben Fulford, for example, is confident in the people eventually winning, because of this fatal flaw.

Yeah, for sure that's why they wanted to defund the police--to bring in UN Nato cops and work with bad Generals. But I guess they didn't figure that they've just royally p'ed off the heavily armed and trained cops, who will for sure then stand with the people.

 

[Drareg]

All these things you describe already happen in the current system. No need to transition to cryptos for any of this.

Negative interest rates won’t work for the general public when cash is still available, people will just hold the cash themselves, the negative interests we see now applies to bonds and other big player interests, the loss is nothing to them. Rumors are banks maybe adding additional charges this year to our accounts and many folks are talking about withdrawing the cash and storing it in a safe.
With a crypto based UBI you have more control of people, with a cash based UBI folks can still access cash via odd jobs, selling drugs etc ,this cash can’t be monitored/tracked.
If they do bring it in it will be gradual,both crypto and cash still available, with time they phase out cash.

 

[tankasnowgod]

Negative interest rates won’t work for the general public when cash is still available, people will just hold the cash themselves,

Have you not heard of "inflation?" Different name, but the exact same effect. Holding Federal Reserve Notes over time, even in physical form, has led to a decrease in value. $100 worth of FRNs won't buy you as much in 2020 as those same FRNs did back in 2000, and even less than 1980, and so forth.

With a crypto based UBI you have more control of people, with a cash based UBI folks can still access cash via odd jobs, selling drugs etc ,this cash can’t be monitored/tracked.
If they do bring it in it will be gradual,both crypto and cash still available, with time they phase out cash.

Well, Gold/Silver/Diamonds/Rolexes/etc will still exist. They simply can't legislate on the private side.

And, so far, cryptos have enabled more ability for these types of transactions, both with transparent coins like Bitcoin, Litecoin etc, and privacy coins like Monero and ZCash.

 

[Drareg]

Have you not heard of "inflation?" Different name, but the exact same effect. Holding Federal Reserve Notes over time, even in physical form, has led to a decrease in value. $100 worth of FRNs won't buy you as much in 2020 as those same FRNs did back in 2000, and even less than 1980, and so forth.



Well, Gold/Silver/Diamonds/Rolexes/etc will still exist. They simply can't legislate on the private side.

And, so far, cryptos have enabled more ability for these types of transactions, both with transparent coins like Bitcoin, Litecoin etc, and privacy coins like Monero and ZCash.

The paper dollar is still the paper dollar, it’s not just money printing that increased asset prices, it’s greed and speculation, if I was to send you back to 1950’s with all your belongings you have now people would view you as wealthy, people also need to account for population growth when offering analogies to what you could buy with the dollar back in the day.
Inflation requires money to be flowing within the system, monetary velocity is what counts, when you consider most of the paper money is digital digits in the top 1% of elites bank accounts on shore and offshore it means it’s not flowing as easily, expecting inflation when it’s likely we will encounter deflation first even with money printing because the money isn’t circulating , IMO this deflation is one of many things that will be used by the ruling class to justify the crypto currency, once on crypto deflation and inflation can be influenced by using data analytics to see where the money is and where we need to "nudge" people to spend it or where we can lower its existence.

You need money to buy precious metals, if you need to buy items worth 20 dollars and have an ounce of gold what do you do, cut it into pieces? I’m not sure how you would buy bread with a diamond, they are not easy to cut into small pieces. Buying precious metals with different crypto currencies means it can be tracked, this tracking takes care of the private side by negating it’s existence.

Rolexes unless diamond studded or precious metal based is speculative, there won’t much of a market for Rolex watches if many are on UBI and the middle class is declining, the elites prefer the likes of F.P. Journe. Another side to that is many watch dealers are offering watches on finance, micro payments, the second hand watch market is "inflated" ,it’s a bubble. Unless it’s a Paul Newman Rolex it’s not a wise hedge IMO.

 

[tankasnowgod]

The paper dollar is still the paper dollar, it’s not just money printing that increased asset prices, it’s greed and speculation, if I was to send you back to 1950’s with all your belongings you have now people would view you as wealthy, people also need to account for population growth when offering analogies to what you could buy with the dollar back in the day.

I highly doubt that. People from the 1950's might think a Galaxy S9 is some sort of cool, magical device, but how do you live in it? People today have a bunch of neat tech gadgets, but fewer real assets.

I don't think "greed" and "speculation" have much effect, at least in the long term. It's mainly money injected into the system, whether that be with physical paper notes, or with debt.

With a central bank, they control interest rates, amount of money in circulation, and the amount of debt.

Inflation requires money to be flowing within the system, monetary velocity is what counts, when you consider most of the paper money is digital digits in the top 1% of elites bank accounts on shore and offshore it means it’s not flowing as easily, expecting inflation when it’s likely we will encounter deflation first even with money printing because the money isn’t circulating , IMO this deflation is one of many things that will be used by the ruling class to justify the crypto currency, once on crypto deflation and inflation can be influenced by using data analytics to see where the money is and where we need to "nudge" people to spend it or where we can lower its existence.

Rich people have most of their wealth tied up in real assets, not bank accounts. You keep on overlooking increasing debt as what is effectively increasing the money supply and driving inflation.

Beyond this, you get into a lot of speculative areas.

You need money to buy precious metals, if you need to buy items worth 20 dollars and have an ounce of gold what do you do, cut it into pieces?

It's interesting you say that we need "money" to buy precious metals. Technically, in the current system, there is no "money," as only gold and silver are considered money (in the Republic, at least). We instead use negotiable debt instruments, for the most part. If you are talking about Federal Reserve Notes (which are debt instruments), you certainly don't "need" them to get Gold or Silver, as you could always mine your own, or set up some sort of private deal with someone who has those assets. Certainly, using FRNs will be the most common and likely easiest way to acquire Gold and Silver, but it's not the only way.

Um, maybe use a less valuable asset? Billionaires will frequently own various types of real estate, but it's not like they sell, say 0.0001% of the title or deed just to have a meal.

 

[Max23]

I don't think your posts are all that well thought out.

If you have military backing..... why just make fringe changes to The Constitution? Why not a full scale coup or takeover? If you want to go slower, all those changes would take decades to implement, if not longer.

If you read "Pawns In The Game" by William Guy Carr, he describes a centuries old plan to take over the world, infiltrating all governments (at various levels), corporations, the media, schools, and other levels of power. Why would you think Trump is in on that? While he might be, his entire campaign was Anti-Globalist/Pro-Nationalist. You should be looking at Presidents like Bush and Clinton, that not only constantly sang the praises of the United Nations and were members of the Tri-Lateral Commission, but also ushered in very pro globalist legislation like NAFTA.

If you know Cathy O'Brien's story, she says that while a mind control slave, she was told explicitly that Trump was not part of the NWO plan- Trump: One of US? - TRANCE Formation Of America

Of course, the whole idea of "Military Backing" exposes the biggest hole in any plot to take over the world, and essentially make slaves of 99% of the population. In any revolution, if the military and/or police stand with the people, leasers usually fall swiftly. Thanks to the 2nd Amendment, the united states of America still has a well armed militia to boot. Members of the police and military come from the general population. If they were ordered to kills their fellow citizens, including their friends and family, would they do it? This is the flaw. The personal bodyguards of the elite come from common people. This is why Ben Fulford, for example, is confident in the people eventually winning, because of this fatal flaw.

No, your posts suck. They are just mindless ramblings.

I didn´t say 100% military backing so they can not do a full coup right now and they rely on useful idiots a lot. One of the aims of the corona crisis was to weaken the constitution, unconsitutional demands do it really well as well. They can not go full throttle when they rely on useful idiots. These changes don´t take decades. They can flip a switch just like with the corona crisis, all they need is a crisis.

Trump is in on it because he is probably being blackmailed. Evidence why Trump works for NWO.

· Was bailed out by a Rothschild bank
· Was tutored by Roy Cohn
· Has several ties with Epstein – real estate, money laundering, child rape, Florida
· Constantly praises Israel and helps them in absolutely any way he can
· Has several ties with Israelis and is surrounded by them
· Instead of draining the swamp, he has filled it with swamp creatures
· NWO agenda has continued under his wing with robust health
· Daughter and her husband are working on a „Minority Report“ style policing system
· Supports 5G, vaccines, GAVI
· Friend of the Clintons, former democrat – that shows the two party illusion
· His seemingly anti-NWO stance provides a perfect cover for the true enemies
· The list could go on and on and on

Never did I say a full coup is going to happen. That is the strawman you decided to create. Or you didn´t read what I wrote? Destruction of the USA by the NWO means that it no longer is what it was or is supposed to be. While still named USA it is something else and it is slowly created into NWO and to look like other „global countries“. These elections can destroy the American constitution and from there on slowly the rest of it.

Again, I didn´t write full military backing. The globalists use deception foremost and they have the media. A real problem might happen when people start demanding that the military removes Trump from office. That is where the military backing might come from or from other forms of power. That is what I wrote not the strawman you decided to create.

 

[tankasnowgod]

Trump is in on it because he is probably being blackmailed. Evidence why Trump works for NWO.

· Was bailed out by a Rothschild bank
· Was tutored by Roy Cohn
· Has several ties with Epstein – real estate, money laundering, child rape, Florida
· Constantly praises Israel and helps them in absolutely any way he can
· Has several ties with Israelis and is surrounded by them
· Instead of draining the swamp, he has filled it with swamp creatures
· NWO agenda has continued under his wing with robust health
· Daughter and her husband are working on a „Minority Report“ style policing system
· Supports 5G, vaccines, GAVI
· Friend of the Clintons, former democrat – that shows the two party illusion
· His seemingly anti-NWO stance provides a perfect cover for the true enemies
· The list could go on and on and on

None of these things is "proof" that he is working for the World Revolutionary Movement/New World Order.

The fact that he's a former democrat is irrelevant. There are plenty of former democrats, even full on marxists, that later became republicans or conservatives. It isn't uncommon. Thomas Sowell and Ronald Reagan are prime examples.

The claim that because he has been against globalism is proof that Trump is for it is baseless. It would apply just as much to you and any of your sources.

How is he "friends" with the Clintons? Trump is a powerful person, and meet and dealt with other powerful people, and no doubt the Clinton's are powerful. Rewatch the debate where he tells Hilary she should be in jail. That is NOT how you treat a friend, and just because you haven't seen anything on the surface, doesn't mean there aren't investigations going on. Proper investigations are always done confidentially, and for big criminals, they can take several years, if done properly.

Trump's "ties" to Epstein are that he knew him, and when Epstein was being investigated by the FBI, he fully cooperated with the investigation, and was the only person to do so. This directly from the case's prosecutor-
Prosecutor in 2009 Epstein Case Said Donald Trump Was the ONLY ONE Who Helped Him

There is zero evidence that Trump ever went to Epstein's Island or flew on the so called "Lolita Express."

The only other thing on your list that has any substance is that Trump had dealing with Rothchild banks during bankruptcies. This is a matter of fact, but how is this in any way "proof?" All banks are owned and controlled by a small group of people, so everyone who has a bank account or credit card is doing business with these people. Dealing with financial institutions during a bankruptcy.

Nothing you listed on your list is "evidence." Everything after your first three points is pure speculation.

 

[tankasnowgod]

Never did I say a full coup is going to happen. That is the strawman you decided to create. Or you didn´t read what I wrote? Destruction of the USA by the NWO means that it no longer is what it was or is supposed to be.

It's a claim like this that makes me think you don't know even basic history of the United States.

In 1933, FDR created the Welfare State (through the New Deal), and abrogated the Gold Clause. This was a drastic change in the Federal Government's responsibilities and structure from the powers it was delegated in the Constitution. It's only duties originally were to protect the borders, protect liberty, and protect property. Not give your children an education, create a retirement program, set up all sorts of regulatory agencies, give or force you to buy health insurance, and so on. This was probably the most drastic change, but there are other very important points in US history that laid the foundation for this, such as the Organic Act of 1871, the 1901 case of Downes Vs. Bidwell, and the Federal Reserve Act of 1913.

 

[Drareg]

I highly doubt that. People from the 1950's might think a Galaxy S9 is some sort of cool, magical device, but how do you live in it? People today have a bunch of neat tech gadgets, but fewer real assets.

I don't think "greed" and "speculation" have much effect, at least in the long term. It's mainly money injected into the system, whether that be with physical paper notes, or with debt.

With a central bank, they control interest rates, amount of money in circulation, and the amount of debt.



Rich people have most of their wealth tied up in real assets, not bank accounts. You keep on overlooking increasing debt as what is effectively increasing the money supply and driving inflation.

Beyond this, you get into a lot of speculative areas.



It's interesting you say that we need "money" to buy precious metals. Technically, in the current system, there is no "money," as only gold and silver are considered money (in the Republic, at least). We instead use negotiable debt instruments, for the most part. If you are talking about Federal Reserve Notes (which are debt instruments), you certainly don't "need" them to get Gold or Silver, as you could always mine your own, or set up some sort of private deal with someone who has those assets. Certainly, using FRNs will be the most common and likely easiest way to acquire Gold and Silver, but it's not the only way.

Um, maybe use a less valuable asset? Billionaires will frequently own various types of real estate, but it's not like they sell, say 0.0001% of the title or deed just to have a meal.

Your watching to many gold charlatans on YouTube.

I understand how the current banking system creates money by issuing debt, it’s an issue and can be rectified, it’s not fixed by making gold and silver the main currencies, your creating odd strawmans at this point.

Your theories on the past need to be adjusted for population growth, you need to read history and understand how people lived in the past, many didn’t own homes, in some cases a 50% deposit was required, a lot of renting etc the population was lower and still there was a huge amount of poverty, work was far more laborious than today, some didn’t even have refrigerators, had to walk everywhere, the list goes on, the least impressive device you could bring back is a galaxy s9, you would have no internet connection or cell towers to use it.
Most of the poverty was present when paper was by backed by gold and dollar coins were made of silver.
Can you highlight where people had more assets in the past compared to now? This isn’t the case.

Billionaires have large numbers within their bank accounts , they also have cash flow from the likes of renting assets, there assets are used for the most part to increase cash flow, sure they have things like works of art ,government bonds, etc, this is hedging, for the most part its about cash flow which means money in the bank albeit flowing. They along with corporate groups vacuum money out of the system and hoard it, if they all release their cash it’s an issue, if it’s done gradually not so much, population growth again to be accounted for.

You need money to buy mining equipment to mine for gold and silver, chicken and egg unless you start mining the metal required to make the equipment etc etc ,if people think they can make enough money swishing for gold from a stream in contemporary times they are delusional ,it’s like a lottery hoping some day a massive nugget will be found, other people will find your spot eventually on top of that.
There is no "technicality" with regard to gold and silver being real money, sea shells were once money, it’s of the human mind assigning value, space contains gold and silver in huge quantities, this rarity myth is just that.

A lot of the gold shills online pump out nonsense to sell gold, you can speculate on it and trade it as a commodity or use it in a basket to back a currency but the belief it’s going to become a currency in its own right is delusional, governments hold gold as a hedge for worst case scenarios essentially the doomsday that gold shills tell us is coming every year, I don’t agree with current financial system, it’s become a casino but gold and silver doesn’t create a better system, they have their own problems.

Many people don’t understand inflation relative to the dollar, nobody wanted Zimbabwean currency worldwide so printing more is basic stupidity ,the dollar is used worldwide for now therefore inflation theories need to account for that, it’s within a complex dynamic system. World population is still growing for now, this needs to accounted for also when it comes to the dollar.

The word currency originally meant condition of flowing, a river won’t inflate unless more water is put in, if central banks turn on the taps and it’s hoarded by the top 1% the river won’t inflate, keep in mind the river bed is widening and getting deeper(population growth) which allows for more water to be added over time.

 

[tankasnowgod]

Your watching to many gold charlatans on YouTube.

I don't watch any "Gold Charlatans." I am much more interested in law and history at this point. This video essay is a good example-

I understand how the current banking system creates money by issuing debt, it’s an issue and can be rectified, it’s not fixed by making gold and silver the main currencies, your creating odd strawmans at this point.

Point out where I said anything could be"fixed by making gold and silver the main currencies." I don't see that claim anywhere in my post. If I didn't make that claim, wouldn't this be a strawman you created?

I mentioned Gold and Silver as the only real money in the Republic (referring to the united states of America). If it wasn't clear, I was referring to the Gold Clause of the Constitution, which is still in effect. The only way to change that is through an Amendment, and there has been no Amendment rescinding that.

Anyway, the entire Federal Reserve System is based on debt (both issued at the local bank level, and for every FRN in circulation, paper or digital). The only way to truly rectify it is with a whole new system.

Your theories on the past need to be adjusted for population growth, you need to read history and understand how people lived in the past, many didn’t own homes, in some cases a 50% deposit was required, a lot of renting etc the population was lower and still there was a huge amount of poverty, work was far more laborious than today, some didn’t even have refrigerators, had to walk everywhere, the list goes on, the least impressive device you could bring back is a galaxy s9, you would have no internet connection or cell towers to use it.

Here's the crux of the matter- NO ONE owns a home today. Plenty of people rent apartments and houses, I think we agree that there is no ownership there. Of so called "Homeowners" today, over 95% have a mortgage. That's certainly not owning a home. You stop paying the mortgage, you will be removed (although it will take some time, but it also takes time to remove delinquent renters).

Of the actual homeowners without a mortgage, most today still have to pay property taxes. Prior to 1913, many landowners in America held Allodial title, meaning that no entity held any sort of lein against the property. Property taxes today make that nearly impossible (or, at least, very difficult).

We certainly have better tech today, and different jobs (though not always "better," many jobs today seem to be devoid of any purpose whatsoever). Most people today seem to be effectively slaves, mostly thanks to debt and taxes. Would you rather have less freedom with more tech and gadgets, or fewer "things" and more freedom? Different people may have different answers (and I actually think 80-90% of people today would choose the former), but I don't think the gadget holding slave is more "rich."

Most of the poverty was present when paper was by backed by gold and dollar coins were made of silver.
Can you highlight where people had more assets in the past compared to now? This isn’t the case.

I don't exactly know how you are judging "most of the poverty" in a time sense, but with the Allodial title example I gave above, I just showed how people had "more assets." They actually owned land and property outright. Who can say that today?

Billionaires have large numbers within their bank accounts , they also have cash flow from the likes of renting assets, there assets are used for the most part to increase cash flow, sure they have things like works of art ,government bonds, etc, this is hedging, for the most part its about cash flow which means money in the bank albeit flowing. They along with corporate groups vacuum money out of the system and hoard it, if they all release their cash it’s an issue, if it’s done gradually not so much, population growth again to be accounted for.

I don't think new cash is printed simply to "hoard" it. Anyone can do that if they want. Issue yourself a $10 Billion Bond, and never show it to anyone or try to use it. Effectively, this is your claim. You have the right and the ability to make such a bond right now, and I guarantee if you do it for your own personal use and never try to negotiate it, no one will try to arrest you.

You need money to buy mining equipment to mine for gold and silver, chicken and egg unless you start mining the metal required to make the equipment etc etc ,if people think they can make enough money swishing for gold from a stream in contemporary times they are delusional ,it’s like a lottery hoping some day a massive nugget will be found, other people will find your spot eventually on top of that.

I did mention mining, but I notice you completely overlooked the private side argument I made.

"If you are talking about Federal Reserve Notes (which are debt instruments), you certainly don't "need" them to get Gold or Silver, as you could always mine your own, or set up some sort of private deal with someone who has those assets. Certainly, using FRNs will be the most common and likely easiest way to acquire Gold and Silver, but it's not the only way."

The private deal would likely involve swapping some of your property for metals (like furniture or a car or something), or your labor, or your knowledge. Pretty much the same way workers can earn FRNs or other fiat, but getting paid directly in metals instead.

There is no "technicality" with regard to gold and silver being real money, sea shells were once money, it’s of the human mind assigning value, space contains gold and silver in huge quantities, this rarity myth is just that.

Well, it depends on your definition. If you mean simply a medium of exchange, you are 100% correct. The point I was making was specifically in regards to Constitutional Money within the Republic of the united states of America. In that case, it is very much a "technicality," and a legal one at that.

A lot of the gold shills online pump out nonsense to sell gold, you can speculate on it and trade it as a commodity or use it in a basket to back a currency but the belief it’s going to become a currency in its own right is delusional, governments hold gold as a hedge for worst case scenarios essentially the doomsday that gold shills tell us is coming every year, I don’t agree with current financial system, it’s become a casino but gold and silver doesn’t create a better system, they have their own problems.

I didn't ever mention any gold shills, nor do I follow any.

Many people don’t understand inflation relative to the dollar, nobody wanted Zimbabwean currency worldwide so printing more is basic stupidity ,the dollar is used worldwide for now therefore inflation theories need to account for that, it’s within a complex dynamic system. World population is still growing for now, this needs to accounted for also when it comes to the dollar.

Well, as any currency loses value, fewer people want it. That's simple supply and demand.

Printing more may not be "basic stupidity" from the view of the government or central bank. When new money is printed, the people who spend the money first get the most value. From that perspective, it could be a basic incentive to start printing more and more money as the value falls, which turns into a vicious circle.

As far as increasing population (or maybe more accurately, an increasing user base), certainly central banking authorities have taken it into account. Have you seen this?

Why Deficits Stopped Mattering, or How To Print Money Without Causing Inflation



Although I think his dismissal of any "banker conspiracies" at the end is ludicrous. He documents in this (and four other) video(s) how bank fraud has been going on in the US at a very high level for decades, and then ends with "but the Federal Reserve was mostly good!"

I think the first video I posted in this thread pretty thoroughly rebuts that idea.

The word currency originally meant condition of flowing, a river won’t inflate unless more water is put in, if central banks turn on the taps and it’s hoarded by the top 1% the river won’t inflate, keep in mind the river bed is widening and getting deeper(population growth) which allows for more water to be added over time.

Again, don't see much point to just issuing money and then NOT using it (see the $10 Billion Bond Example above). I think the point is for real assets (be they gold, silver, jewelry, cars, houses, or whatever) to flow upward and keeping most people chasing paper.

 

[Max23]

None of these things is "proof" that he is working for the World Revolutionary Movement/New World Order.

The fact that he's a former democrat is irrelevant. There are plenty of former democrats, even full on marxists, that later became republicans or conservatives. It isn't uncommon. Thomas Sowell and Ronald Reagan are prime examples.

The claim that because he has been against globalism is proof that Trump is for it is baseless. It would apply just as much to you and any of your sources.

How is he "friends" with the Clintons? Trump is a powerful person, and meet and dealt with other powerful people, and no doubt the Clinton's are powerful. Rewatch the debate where he tells Hilary she should be in jail. That is NOT how you treat a friend, and just because you haven't seen anything on the surface, doesn't mean there aren't investigations going on. Proper investigations are always done confidentially, and for big criminals, they can take several years, if done properly.

Trump's "ties" to Epstein are that he knew him, and when Epstein was being investigated by the FBI, he fully cooperated with the investigation, and was the only person to do so. This directly from the case's prosecutor-
Prosecutor in 2009 Epstein Case Said Donald Trump Was the ONLY ONE Who Helped Him

There is zero evidence that Trump ever went to Epstein's Island or flew on the so called "Lolita Express."

The only other thing on your list that has any substance is that Trump had dealing with Rothchild banks during bankruptcies. This is a matter of fact, but how is this in any way "proof?" All banks are owned and controlled by a small group of people, so everyone who has a bank account or credit card is doing business with these people. Dealing with financial institutions during a bankruptcy.

Nothing you listed on your list is "evidence." Everything after your first three points is pure speculation.

I didn´t write proof. I wrote evidence. When you put a bunch of evidence together, you´ll get a picture. For you to say what I wrote is no proof at all is ridiculous. For example when I wrote NWO is in robust health under his wing. The exact thing that is happening that would prove my point and it is no proof? He is going along with vaccines, food system change, censorship, surveillance, population control, destruction of cash, electric cars, 5G, a lot of climate warming projects and with so much others, the current way of life is being totally changed and he doesn´t do much about it. He talks some antiglobalist talk and then does the opposite globalist thing.

I said him being against NWO is a perfect cover for them. Him fulfilling the globalist agenda and then making antiglobalistic statements is evidence, because what would be the cause for him to lie like that? I think it is to appeal to his voters and Q followers, while satisfying his masters. He creates a mess at the same time and keeps the opposition of the establishment from getting strong and away from important matters. This kind of a circus is pretty genius.

Him and Bill were friends and Trump supported The Clinton Foundation with a lot of money. Maybe Bill Clinton and Trump are being blackmailed by the same people?

The whiny prosecutor cries that no-one would pick up his phone when he called them L. And how did Trump help the investigation? It turns out he was so helpful, that Epstein walked free for ten years raping hundreds of children afterwards. Also he named Alex Acosta, man responsible for setting Epstein free, as his Cabinet member. I didn´t say he flew to Lolita Island, allegations against him were for incidents in New York and from Mar-a-Lago some Epstein girls were recruited.

Trump was literally bailed out by Rotschild & Co with the help of Wilbur Ross, who what do you know, is his Cabinet member. It wasn´t some sort of a credit card deal. How much does he owe him? It makes you wonder how many connections of this kind are there? If all of them were listed would that be any kind proof or wouldn´t any amount matter?

Everything after my first three points is speculation? No they are all facts. Only that I should have written „was friends with the Clintons“, it is the same argument, but I wasn´t accurate enough. If they aren´t actively practicing friendship, it is difficult to call them friends.

I doubt a Trumper like you cares, but for anyone else reading, a superinteresting article about how Trump and Alex Jones are controlled opposition the same way, and QAnon a PSYOP.

As well as this video is interesting. One of Trump´s main roles is to be a military salesman and to fulfill other military NWO targets. Then he says he is against the military-industrial complex. What a joke.

 

[Max23]

It's a claim like this that makes me think you don't know even basic history of the United States.

In 1933, FDR created the Welfare State (through the New Deal), and abrogated the Gold Clause. This was a drastic change in the Federal Government's responsibilities and structure from the powers it was delegated in the Constitution. It's only duties originally were to protect the borders, protect liberty, and protect property. Not give your children an education, create a retirement program, set up all sorts of regulatory agencies, give or force you to buy health insurance, and so on. This was probably the most drastic change, but there are other very important points in US history that laid the foundation for this, such as the Organic Act of 1871, the 1901 case of Downes Vs. Bidwell, and the Federal Reserve Act of 1913.

Are you illiterate? What are you talking about?