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Charlie said:For me, and now I am 100% convinced. Hard heart beat is actually a normal heart beat and I was just not use to it.
Good point Charlie,Charlie said:Jojo, the thing with mine is when the HHB went away after going off thyroid, my sleep crashed, my energy crashed, I simply crashed. Back on thyroid, HHB came back, sleep immediately got better, energy coming back, slowly coming out of the hole. Now that I look at the HHB as a good thing there is no more nervousness with it and I actually miss it when its not there
So with all that I said above. I have to conclude all is well when the HHB happens. The only thing that was not well was I was scared of it when it happened. Now that I accepted it, all is well.
Charlie said:Jojo, the thing with mine is when the HHB went away after going off thyroid, my sleep crashed, my energy crashed, I simply crashed. Back on thyroid, HHB came back, sleep immediately got better, energy coming back, slowly coming out of the hole. Now that I look at the HHB as a good thing there is no more nervousness with it and I actually miss it when its not there
So with all that I said above. I have to conclude all is well when the HHB happens. The only thing that was not well was I was scared of it when it happened. Now that I accepted it, all is well.
narouz said:Charlie-
This is so weird:
you do antibiotics,
I do antibiotics.
You get thrush,
I get thrush.
You get HHB,
now I get HHD.
Wha...!?
Lately I think of you when I get my HHB thing at night.
I think it happens other times,
but when I'm quiet and reading/getting ready to try to sleep
is when I notice it.
And as I said, it can occur when my heart is beating pretty slowly.
I'm sortuv where you were a while back.
It is uncomfortable, a bit scary.
I've been trying the straight T3 thing here beginning about a week ago.
So...you weren't doing that.
But maybe the straight T3 regime
is starting to make my heart beat more healthily or "normally"
and, like you now see it,
that healthy heartbeat now seems unusual and therefore scary.
I dunno.
The investigation continues....
narouz said:Ray-Z,
I didn't mean it pejoratively when I remarked about your trial-and-error method.
I tend to be timid about dosing myself with potent chemicals like T3.
When I switched a couple years ago from Synthroid to NDT,
that gave me a bit of a scare at first--the "hard heart beating" and sleeplessness.
So you guys who pop down the 100gram+ doses of straight T3...
I was just trying to understand where you got that seeming daredevil spirit! :)
narouz said:In my first week here of trying straight T3
I've found it a little hard to stabilize dosing.
I've been splitting it up into little 6mcg doses,
spreading that throughout the day.
Trying to take about 25mcg per day.
It's kinda surprised me that I've had a hard time getting my morning temps up with straight T3.
I've seen this kind of pattern:
I take 6mcg around 7:00AM.
Then another 6mcg around 10:00AM.
But my temps/pulse will still be low, like around 97 degrees
(haven't been able to get my pulse at work).
narouz said:Then I take another 6mcg around 1:00 and (here's the surprising thing):
on a couple of days at that dosing my temps and pulses go way up after that
to around 99.5 degrees and 90bpm mid-afternoon,
and stay high until late at night, with no additional doses.
It makes me feel like there is a cumulative effect--which I didn't expect.
narouz said:Also Ray-Z: have you ever looked into Paul Robinson's Circadian T3 dosing?
He recommends (oddly) taking a dose of T3 a couple of hours before you wake up.
(I guess you set the alarm, dose, then try to go back to sleep. :? )
Ray-Z said:narouz said:Also Ray-Z: have you ever looked into Paul Robinson's Circadian T3 dosing?
He recommends (oddly) taking a dose of T3 a couple of hours before you wake up.
(I guess you set the alarm, dose, then try to go back to sleep. :? )
Oh, man, that sounds rough! Persuading me to interrupt my sleep for almost any reason is a tough sell. I wonder if this tactic is intended to combat the problem (mentioned by Peat in an email and discussed in other threads) that supplemental T3 gets used up overnight...
Winblo said:Has anybody here ever tried Paul Robinson's Circadian T3 method for treating hypothyroidism? Apparently, some people have had success with this thyroid dosing schedule when other thyroid dosing methods had failed them.
http://recoveringwitht3.com/blog/why-bo ... ethod-ct3m
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDV1qePLtLs
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/T3CM/
IN the last year I have learned that for HYPOTHYROID people the Ferritin is the LASTS thing we should be looking at as MOST of us it will be falsely elevated due to the inflammation caused by hypo. Mine certainly was as there is no other reason mine came down from 159 to 90 except I am not hypo now.
kiran said:narouz, how did you diagnose your high iron?
j. said:narouz, this is a slight hijack. have you ever mention Ray Peat's name to your doctor?