Bringing Back Gbolduev. Great Results In Regards To CO2

[JDreamer]

A primer on what persons suffering from mania write like.

 

[Amazoniac]

It appeared bizarre to suggest high waste productide (WP2) in the venous blood (leaving tissues) of most people because it would require robust cellular respiration in the first place. However, later it seemed that what he had in mind was in relation to someone who produces WP2 normally but is able to convert it fast to something else, lowering the concentration and making it easier to transport it out. I have no idea if such things occurs.

Then, I think that what he meant is that you'll eventually burnout from overstimulation when waste productide builds up forcefully.
By the way, how prolonged use of masks affects available zinc (carbionic annihilase)?

- Altitude and Mortality | Ray Peat
- Adapting to High Altitude | Palomar College
- ABC of oxygen: Oxygen at high altitude
- Humans In Hypoxia: A Conspiracy Of Maladaptation?!

Synthesis of more mitochondria, red blood cells or even increased vascularization (as in cancre) are all compensatory adaptations.

1 mile doesn't sound extreme, but 20 is drugs, should be regulated as dangerous. If these guys reduce the benefit that they get by taking measures that make it more sustainable (nourishing and intervalling), it indicates temporary relief from the elevation of stress hormones, it's almost like adopting a carnivore diet with tissues being cannibalized.

Nothing this idiot says is backed up by anything. It's bro science at its' absolute worst.

I have to introduce you to Charnathan's writings so that this rank can be rearranged. You'll find assertive claims such as acne's cause is iron accumulation in the brain, and for being unable to cross the cranium, it has to make its way out through the face and then triggers it; something along these lines. Him and Garrett are two guys that would be at the top of my 'Frauds of the community' list.

 

[SOMO]

I know when i go keto or low carb i can run 50-80% more, it actually feels like I could run forever... so that happens in just 3 days

when i go high starch vegan i struggle even with stairs ...

1. I think the simplest explanation is that cardio is supposed to burn primarily fat, not glucose.

2. I read that up to 64% increase in VO2 increases Fat Oxidation, which would be good for running, but anything above 64% intensity will increase glucose oxidation and glucose is not really meant to power long distance, paced running/cardio. In other words, if you do not pace yourself and insist on exercising at a moderate (not mild) intensity, you will be burning primarily glucose instead of fat.

3. As we know, glucose/glycogen is a very finite resource, but body fat is nearly endless.

4. I will say that on 3+ hour intense bike rides I can dip into ketosis suddenly and it feels like my body has "Crashed" and muscles give up.

5. I also think High Starch can be bloating, making you more cumbersome/less agile.

 

[GreekDemiGod]

Recently, Gbol, or Helen as he now likes to be called, wrote about how bad he is feeling and that he can't seem to get things in the right direction anymore.

If this is true, then it's a big argument in not trusting him.

 

[yerrag]

Recently, Gbol, or Helen as he now likes to be called

No one is asking what Is GOING On here? Is this normal already?

 

[Amazoniac]

No one is asking what Is GOING On here? Is this normal already?

It's not a choice.

 

[Kvothe]

Then, I think that what he meant is that you'll eventually burnout from overstimulation when waste productide builds up forcefully.

First, what does he even mean by forcefully? How do you forcefully build up your CO2? I don't think the occasional bag breathing that Ray recommends can be called a forced built-up. And second, how would this result in overstimulation? It's usually a low partial CO2 pressure that results in a condition you might call overstimulation, when glucose is consumed rapidly, and wastefully, to make excessive amounts of lactate.

 

[Broco6679]

You used an old picture of Kinodbody, my dude. His hairline is quite receded now, and his overall appearance is very hypometabolic -- under eye bags, thinned out eyebrows, pale skin, etc. The dude has a certain look that a lot of men aspire to, but I don't think he is healthy.

 

[redsun]

You used an old picture of Kinodbody, my dude. His hairline is quite receded now, and his overall appearance is very hypometabolic -- under eye bags, thinned out eyebrows, pale skin, etc. The dude has a certain look that a lot of men aspire to, but I don't think he is healthy.

Looking at his most recent IG picks I see no indication of any of these things. Hair is very full and hair line in OPs pic looks the same in new ones. Lol pale skin where? But even if he has pale skin doesnt mean he's unhealthy, it means lack of tan but you can clearly see he has some color.

Most people have eye bags if they have enough stress related to work and personal life, no indications of low thyroid.

 

[Wagner83]

The 'gbol Q and A' thread is near the top of my personal Hall of Shame. I wish they would pick one of the banned members and make it seem as if he/she was the original poster.

 

[Broco6679]

Looking at his most recent IG picks I see no indication of any of these things. Hair is very full and hair line in OPs pic looks the same in new ones. Lol pale skin where? But even if he has pale skin doesnt mean he's unhealthy, it means lack of tan but you can clearly see he has some color.

Most people have eye bags if they have enough stress related to work and personal life, no indications of low thyroid.

I never said his hair wasn't full. I said he has a receded hairline, which he does. The OP was using Kinodbody as an example of how fasting, cardio, etc can promote good hair, yet he himself has some recession.

Pale was probably the wrong word on my part -- gaunt, would have been more appropriate. His eyebrows are very thin, too. I don't think he looks bad per se, but a lot of his features do suggest he is hypometabolic to me. Feel free to disagree, but that's what I personally see.

 

[redsun]

I never said his hair wasn't full. I said he has a receded hairline, which he does. The OP was using Kinodbody as an example of how fasting, cardio, etc can promote good hair, yet Kinobody himself has hairline recession.

Pale was probably the wrong word on my part -- gaunt, would have been a more appropriate. His eyebrows are very thin, too. Feel free to disagree, but that's what I personally see.

Gaunt due to low body fat which is what he is after. Greg is the type of guy to get his eyebrows done. I don't know if he does but I wouldn't be surprised. I do see in this pic maybe the eyebrows like thinned out.

I dont see recession, but recession is MPB so its just one of those things and I dont see how you can have bad thyroid function with his kind of hair quality. Maybe he's getting there.

 

[Amazoniac]

First, what does he even mean by forcefully? How do you forcefully build up your CO2? I don't think the occasional bag breathing that Ray recommends can be called a forced built-up. And second, how would this result in overstimulation? It's usually a low partial CO2 pressure that results in a condition you might call overstimulation, when glucose is consumed rapidly, and wastefully, to make excessive amounts of lactate.

I'm not lawyering here, just trying to decipher the message and make sense of it.

- WARNING: CO2-related Death

Increasing WP2 artificially doesn't necessarily mean normalization of oxidation in cells, part of the benefits are derived only after adaptation, meanwhile increasing the delivery of oxygen to tissues requires doing something productive with it; someone with poor metabolism might feel sick initially at high altitude. An efficient boost in metabolism still uses up nutrients and can precipitate deficiencies, at some stage it becomes discomfortable and pushing beyond is excess stimulation.

Bag breathing triggers adaptations but it's a confusing signal for the body to experience abrupt shifts frequently; in adapting well to one condition, something might be compromised switching to the other, but exercise is also temporary and has relatively lasting effects, and it works fine. However, regulation of acid-base balance is fast through the lungs and slower through the kidneys. In changing the composition of the air (training mask for example), it's imposing an adaptation and there's not much room for rapid compensation, this must be when panic is triggered on exertion.

- Change in the Atmosphere with Altitude | UCAR

"As you climb a mountain, you can expect the air temperature to decrease by 6.5 degrees C for every 1000 meters you gain. This is called the standard (average) lapse rate."​

It might help to keep our cool when metabolism is ramped up.

 

[Broco6679]

Gaunt due to low body fat which is what he is after. Greg is the type of guy to get his eyebrows done. I don't know if he does but I wouldn't be surprised. I do see in this pic maybe the eyebrows like thinned out.

I dont see recession, but recession is MPB so its just one of those things and I dont see how you can have bad thyroid function with his kind of hair quality. Maybe he's getting there.

I don't think he is severely metabolically impaired right now, but he is definitely heading in that direction, imo -- even his lips are extremely pale; lacking blood.

Like you said though, I guess that's the look he's after. The dude is 5'10, 180 lean, and has been living on ~2000 calories year round since he started his channel / business almost a decade ago. His diet is also regularly devoid of nutrients if you watch his day of eating, mostly living on chipotle, restaurant food and reese's cups. I'm surprised he doesn't look a lot worse, everything considered.

I wasn't implying he looks awful, because he definitely doesn't. I only picked him out because I don't think he can be used as evidence that fasting + cardio produces great health as the op was suggesting.

 

[LUH 3417]

could it be possible that someone can just has great hair (by genetics) mo matter what he eats...
i also know super fat people with a terrible diet that have skin like a baby, not one pimple or acne...

the logic here on this forum goes sometimes too much to correlation not causation... I ate an orange for breakfast, in the noon i get struck by a car... conclusion oranges for breakfast make you get struck by a car at the noon...

I noticed this too, I work with an obese woman who has the skin of a toddler. It’s kind of amazing. She also has no wrinkles to speak of and is in her 30s.

 

[GreekDemiGod]

@Broco6679 I believe his hairline was always a bit receded, but had great hair quality and he can rock a long hair style.
There is also a possibility that he cycled low dose steroids. It's debatable how he can achieve such muscle fulness at 7% bodyfat, though he has been training for 10+ years.
What I find remarkable is how is he able to maintain high hormones / Testosterone with spending so much time at under 10% bodyfat. He claims doing strategic refeeds circumvent this.
He is also pretty much about flexible dieting / IIFYM style of eating.
Gotta also consider that

• He likely lives a stimulating, dopamine enriched lifestyle. Being rich and having your own mansion is fun.
• Likely low stress levels
• IF is likely his only big stressor in his life
• He only lifts 3 times / week.

 

[zarrin77]

Exercise increases eNOS, oxidative glycolysis, fasting blood flow, and sometimes IGF-1. All these things will help with hair growth. I’m assuming here the exercise is not stupid like doing long marathons.

 

[jyb]

I noticed this too, I work with an obese woman who has the skin of a toddler. It’s kind of amazing. She also has no wrinkles to speak of and is in her 30s.

These are good observations that I think are overlooked on forums. I have wondered whether excess fat could have a paradoxical beneficial effect on skin and hair. Likewise, I find it common to meet young people that appear to be the definition of high metabolism and health, except for having zero hair left or other paradoxical feature. It's hard to say if it's due to organ specific effects of the environment (for example, some excessive pufa intake that would harm some aspects of health while benefitting others) or just us underestimating the influence of early life predisposition (not necessarily "genetics") such that the environment (food) won't move the needle. I think there is a good case for both.

 

[opethfeldt]

@Broco6679 I believe his hairline was always a bit receded, but had great hair quality and he can rock a long hair style.
There is also a possibility that he cycled low dose steroids. It's debatable how he can achieve such muscle fulness at 7% bodyfat, though he has been training for 10+ years.
What I find remarkable is how is he able to maintain high hormones / Testosterone with spending so much time at under 10% bodyfat. He claims doing strategic refeeds circumvent this.
He is also pretty much about flexible dieting / IIFYM style of eating.
Gotta also consider that

• He likely lives a stimulating, dopamine enriched lifestyle. Being rich and having your own mansion is fun.
• Likely low stress levels
• IF is likely his only big stressor in his life
• He only lifts 3 times / week.

Greg has had multiple periods where he was becoming alcoholic and depressed. He also spoke about porn addiction. So despite his relatively easy life (in comparison to the average Joe), IF was still enough of a stressor to manifest in him finding methods to cope. If a guy like Greg can't do IF without the stress becoming too great, I think that says a lot about how an average person would handle it.

 

[Broco6679]

Bit random but I found an old Kinobody video today where he gets a hormone panel ran. Can find the video here for those interested.

His results:
Testosterone: 23 nmol/l (7.6 - 31.4)
Prolactin: 11 ug/L (< 18)
Estradiol: 95 (< 224)
Progesterone: 2.7 nmol/L (0.7 - 4.3)

Pretty interesting. Average testosterone, average estrogen, average prolactin, but very high progesterone for a male. The mean male progesterone according to the little data we have is 1.2 +/- 0.23 nmol/L, with my own prog usually falling around 1.4 nmol/L everytime I've had it checked. All whilst maintaining an extremely low body fat percentage.

The general consensus re: hairloss on this sub is high endogenous progesterone = good hair, and whilst I think he does have some mild recession, his hair is still very dense, especially considering the years of intermittent fasting, living off chipotle, lots of drinking and partying, etc, etc.