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That's weird about his site for sure. I follow him on facebook and have had some interactions with him where we disagreed and it was cordial. I don't visit his site often and would say any positive interaction I have had with him has been on facebook.Last time I checked, haidut also engages in critical discussion about the studies and opinions he posts. Good guy Garret Smith doesn't even allow comments and locks his content so that people have to copy his nonsense letter by letter. He knows that he can only fool uneducated and desperate people, and since he doesn't want to let go of their money, he avoids subjecting his "ideas" to the criticism of intelligent, honest people. He is a classical snake oil salesman.
Yeah but Lustig is the same all the time. Sugar sugar sugar. Smith at least comes up with something new. If Lustig came out and said he was wrong and is working on something new, I would check it out. I'm sure you would too, even if just to dismiss it.Lustig reads and writes studies, but I am not going to follow his work. So does that Rhonda Patrick, and she megadoses fish oil.
Out of curiosity, what points/topics do you disagree with Haidut on?
@Kartoffel , would you please let me know your posts in my news feed?
Is this really enough chloride to have a significant effect on acid-base balance?with magnesium chloride that on the best case scenario of skin uptake being decent, affects acid-base balance in a way that's difficult to compensate.
Mito, I understand that it takes time to put on make-up, yet it is not convincing that you're a mitochondria, it's difficult to tell your identity, you look like clouds to me. No offense. Why not owning it? Can you spot Zeus near you?Is this really enough chloride to have a significant effect on acid-base balance?
Yeah I don't think Garrett is causing the kind of harm regular doctors do when all they do is prescribe is drugs to their patients. Not to mention the amount of deaths that have occurred through medical error. I don't think anyone will die eating beef, rice, beans, bananas, apples, cauliflower, and potatoes.@Amazoniac wrote:
"It's the combination of incompetence with an off-putting conduct on a level that's not admissible for a doctor."
I don't look at his website but I did when it was possible to just read it. Now it seems like I have to go directly to the store. But how is his conduct worse than the majority of doctors who push prescription medicine for which they receive incentives from pharmaceutical companies?
@Amazoniac wrote:
"It's the combination of incompetence with an off-putting conduct on a level that's not admissible for a doctor."
I don't look at his website but I did when it was possible to just read it. Now it seems like I have to go directly to the store. But how is his conduct worse than the majority of doctors who push prescription medicine for which they receive incentives from pharmaceutical companies?
You can't go by this judgment because you'll always find professionals doing worse (no matter how low you go) that can be used to exempt the other of their responsibility.Yeah I don't think Garrett is causing the kind of harm regular doctors do when all they do is prescribe is drugs to their patients. Not to mention the amount of deaths that have occurred through medical error. I don't think anyone will die eating beef, rice, beans, bananas, apples, cauliflower, and potatoes.
We need more people like Smith on these forums. People who will come in and say:
"Guys guys guys, I figured it out. The key to health. Niacin+Lemon Juice. Rectally. I read an obscure reference from 1962 that it works and am doing it this weekend. Get onboard now or you'll miss out"
Followed a week later by
"GUYS GUYS GUYS. DO NOT DO THE RECTAL NIACIN JUICE. MY BAD"
(schultz, 2019)
4.Destructive foods
Meat,fish and seafood
Chillies
.Mito, I understand that it takes time to put on make-up, yet it is not convincing that you're a mitochondria, it's difficult to tell your identity, you look like clouds to me. No offense. Why not owning it? Can you spot Zeus near you?
I would have agreed with you a few years ago, but I have come to respect those who experiment/are entrepreneurs in a mighty way, and am willing to overlook personality traits that I normally would find off putting.I do not feel as though we need this type of person on the forum. This kind of bombastic hyperbole just serves to muddy the conversation. Just my opinion though.
I think VAD might work for some people. You can try it if you want. But the proponents of VAD should be willing to admit that it might not work for everyone, because it doesn't.
I tried it for several months, nothing happened. In fact, bad things happened. One of my teeth disintegrated. The Smith ideology pushes a fear of not just A, but also D and even K. And I doubt this fear of fat solubles helped my dental health while I was also eating lots of starch and sugar, and not 'resetting' my mouth after every meal by brushing or using baking soda or something else.
Amazoniac, I love and respect you as a poster, but you just need to let it go. The other commenters are right, there are worse people out there. But because Garrett is in your information feed, you are bothered by him... and you're bothered by the fact that nobody else sees the bull****!
Familiarity breeds contempt.
Go hang out with normies. Go travel. See how little people care about any of this. And many of them are none the worse for it. In fact, the ones who do care are often the most misguided.
I checked out of the forum for several months and now I don't care about Smith the manic naturopath. He likes to be contrarian and on the edge, so maybe he will dig up something new in the future. Luckily the mania that had gripped this forum seems to have subsided. I found an interesting study a few weeks ago and I was going to post in the mega thread, but it wasn't stickied anymore.
I also respect your opinions, but it's the same argument as always: there are people doing worse, so leave the guy alone doing his thing.I think VAD might work for some people. You can try it if you want. But the proponents of VAD should be willing to admit that it might not work for everyone, because it doesn't.
I tried it for several months, nothing happened. In fact, bad things happened. One of my teeth disintegrated. The Smith ideology pushes a fear of not just A, but also D and even K. And I doubt this fear of fat solubles helped my dental health while I was also eating lots of starch and sugar, and not 'resetting' my mouth after every meal by brushing or using baking soda or something else.
Amazoniac, I love and respect you as a poster, but you just need to let it go. The other commenters are right, there are worse people out there. But because Garrett is in your information feed, you are bothered by him... and you're bothered by the fact that nobody else sees the bull****!
Familiarity breeds contempt.
Go hang out with normies. Go travel. See how little people care about any of this. And many of them are none the worse for it. In fact, the ones who do care are often the most misguided.
I checked out of the forum for several months and now I don't care about Smith the manic naturopath. He likes to be contrarian and on the edge, so maybe he will dig up something new in the future. Luckily the mania that had gripped this forum seems to have subsided. I found an interesting study a few weeks ago and I was going to post in the mega thread, but it wasn't stickied anymore.
I do not feel as though we need this type of person on the forum. This kind of bombastic hyperbole just serves to muddy the conversation. Just my opinion though.
Passion is an admirable trait, but without composure it takes over and we start going irrational.Frederico said:One is punished best for one's virtues.
Fred again said:The criminal, often is not equal to his act; he diminishes and debases it.
Did you really use a murder analogy to make your argument?I also respect your opinions, but it's the same argument as always: there are people doing worse, so leave the guy alone doing his thing.
Familiarity may also breed this, and speaking up can be helpful for others in countering the articulate speech, so that they weigh decisions better. I could travel the world backpacking without internet and on my return the guy will be selling a new story, this has been going for years. There are others like him, but he's the one vulturing the community.
I'm not trying to play a savior here, the reason it bothers me is because for quite a while I was tricked. The assertive tone and lengthy posts are impressive at first, but once you start refusing to accept the information passively and examining it carefully, the cluelessness is evident, it's almost humorous how dots are connected and everything distorted.
Passion is an admirable trait, but without composure it takes over and we start going irrational.
Let's say that you lived in a small town and there was a scammer around. One of your relatives ends up being a victim and you seek judicial means of solving it. When you is in court with the criminal, he claims innocence (most do)..
..and uses an isolated case of murder to justify that what he's doing is nothing in comparison. A group of people that you're familiar with invades the session asking the judge to let him go because the focus should be on assassins instead. The judge is tired and decides with the crew to accept the request and neglect from now on all crimes that are not murders. After the green light for non-violent crimes, the scammer is one of those that starts feasting, and every time of being cornered, people are told that it's for a greater purpose such as helping others, points the finger to the murder, and gets away with it. Then, a journalist picks up on what's happening and decides to write about it, after all, it's what's not explicit that needs more attentive consideration; there is no question for example that a rapialist is wrong. However, the same group of people reappears with the same speech, telling the journalist not to do it since there was a worse case for him to address, and it would be unjust if he did otherwise.
How would you feel about it? Can the group of people be held partially responsible for what happens to the scammed due to condonement? If something bad occurs to them in the long-term stemming from it, would they stick to the serenade or silently disappear?
I'm not implying that his acts are deliberately evil or dishonest, but at times what he does bears irresponsibility.
Anyway, why this thread has so many views?