Just wanted to say something.

[Guille Yacante]

PUFA's are worse than a lot of people here may be thinking, or if they know they are forgetting.

I can see the focus on this forum all scattered, that's why people get confused or don't understand some topics like it has been in my case.

I have been overlooking and underestimating the PUFA subject for years, and now I am paying the consequences.

I wish it had been spoken of as it should have been.

They are being used as weapons, it's part of the modern warfare to destabilize society and neutralize people. And this is not to bring some conspiracy theory ambiance to the thread. What a lot of us have been doing is to be all scattered.

Let us not be minding "lowering serotonin" and taking tons of supplements. Newcomers here may get all confused and not make it much farther.

Where the focus should be kept is in avoiding PUFA's and neutralizing those that may be circling around in the detox process. It's really that dangerous. I can tell a lot of people go around with rashes on their face because of them. I can tell a lot of people develop "multiple sclerosis symptoms" because of them. Even autism, because autism is a symptom, out of all the oxidative stress.

So, even more dangerous than vaccines, more dangerous than pesticides, anything people could have been protecting themselves from, are PUFA's. Because they tend to be ingested everyday.

This has been making a lot of people fat, and even when they try to exercise they tend to feel worse. This has led a lot of people to experience manic symptoms when fasting for more than 24 hours. This has left a lot of people enduring endlessly what they think to be a syndrome of abstinence or a flatline, and they are never making it to the other side.

This is worse than we have been thinking and I want to bring the attention here.

I would say not even trust the so-labeled "olive oil" because there is a lot of fraud in that business. If anyone be pouring olive oil on anything, let him assume he is pouring some counterfeit product filled with sunflower oil or some garbage like that.

And by the way, the closure is, for us men, that we have to keep the focus in just two subjects: PUFA depletion and avoidance. And practicing semen retention with responsibility.

We are not to be scattered or minding nonsense.

Thank you.

 

[chrstn4o]

Amen. I too recently re-remembered the importance of this and when I took stock, realised how much extra pufa we were eating from duck liver pate and other such delicacies.... Big overhaul.... And lots of vitamin e...

 

[Peater]

I very much agree and would add modern wheat to that list too, as well as approved adulterants like carrageenan etc.

 

[Blossom]

Yes, it’s important to tackle the basics first.

 

[HumanLife]

I have accepted that PUFA are inevitable, especially when eating out, but I do take Vitamin E with mixed tocopherols, aspirin, and coconut oil from time to time.

 

[Rafe]

Absolutely.

Even if you just stick with the metabolic problems PUFA introduces, that’s right. It’s because of the metabolic problems that the social effects are insidious.

 

[TheSir]

and now I am paying the consequences

How?

 

[AlaskaJono]

I can only speak for myself in this matter, and for my wife who agrees 100%, that high pufa diets are one of the main contributors to low metabolism, both cellular and thyroid. This is one of the main points in my mind, that Peat pointed out in his writings and his interviews.

Regarding the forum here, lotsa wasted efforts on so many threads in my opinion. I have been visiting the forum for about 10 years, but the first few years just focused on Ray's actual writings, and did not join up until 2020. Nowadays, seems people ask questions for quick fixes, but missing the Context.....of their life/diet/symptoms. Just my observation.

Oh, and btw, I do think that a great many people on the forum do understand the pufa poison issue, but have not chimed in for a great many reasons for several years now. My guess is that they do not want to waste time, when some research and time spent reading and reflecting on the wholistic aspect of the biochemistry and metabolic connections, and basic physiology if they haven't had these subjects before. But the times they are a changing.... and different types of people are active on here now. No estan mal o bueno, los tiempo se cambian. The times they are a changing.... . Ciao

 

[mostlylurking]

PUFA's are worse than a lot of people here may be thinking, or if they know they are forgetting.

I can see the focus on this forum all scattered, that's why people get confused or don't understand some topics like it has been in my case.

I have been overlooking and underestimating the PUFA subject for years, and now I am paying the consequences.

I wish it had been spoken of as it should have been.

They are being used as weapons, it's part of the modern warfare to destabilize society and neutralize people. And this is not to bring some conspiracy theory ambiance to the thread. What a lot of us have been doing is to be all scattered.

Let us not be minding "lowering serotonin" and taking tons of supplements. Newcomers here may get all confused and not make it much farther.

Where the focus should be kept is in avoiding PUFA's and neutralizing those that may be circling around in the detox process. It's really that dangerous. I can tell a lot of people go around with rashes on their face because of them. I can tell a lot of people develop "multiple sclerosis symptoms" because of them. Even autism, because autism is a symptom, out of all the oxidative stress.

So, even more dangerous than vaccines, more dangerous than pesticides, anything people could have been protecting themselves from, are PUFA's. Because they tend to be ingested everyday.

This has been making a lot of people fat, and even when they try to exercise they tend to feel worse. This has led a lot of people to experience manic symptoms when fasting for more than 24 hours. This has left a lot of people enduring endlessly what they think to be a syndrome of abstinence or a flatline, and they are never making it to the other side.

This is worse than we have been thinking and I want to bring the attention here.

I would say not even trust the so-labeled "olive oil" because there is a lot of fraud in that business. If anyone be pouring olive oil on anything, let him assume he is pouring some counterfeit product filled with sunflower oil or some garbage like that.

And by the way, the closure is, for us men, that we have to keep the focus in just two subjects: PUFA depletion and avoidance. And practicing semen retention with responsibility.

We are not to be scattered or minding nonsense.

Thank you.

I agree that PUFA avoidance it absolutely critical. I've avoided it like the plague since January of 2015 (including banishing the olive oil completely). Dabbling in consuming PUFA only at lunch (eating out), like my husband does, has proven pretty disastrous. His skin has suffered horribly. For someone who never burned when younger and is 5/8ths American Indian, his skin damage is alarming.

Since I'm such a thiamine fan, I looked up "thiamine and polyunsaturated fatty acids". There are actually interesting results I'd like to share.

Changes in thiamine concentrations, fatty acid composition, and some other lipid-related biochemical indices in Baltic Sea Atlantic salmon (Salmo salar) during the spawning run and pre-spawning fasting - Helgoland Marine Research

Salmonines in the Baltic Sea and North American lakes suffer from thiamine (vitamin B1) deficiency, which is connected to an abundant lipid-rich diet containing substantial amounts of polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFAs). In the Baltic region, this is known as the M74 syndrome. It affects both...

hmr.biomedcentral.com

"PUFAs, and especially highly unsaturated FAs (HUFAs), are highly susceptible to lipid peroxidation [45, 46]. It has been shown that thiamine reacts with free radicals and hydroperoxides, and is destroyed in these reactions [47]. The youngest and fattiest sprat specimens contain the least thiamine, which is potentially due to their high PUFA content [7, 39]. The supply of thiamine in relation to PUFAs is therefore lowest in the youngest specimens [7].

"Thiamine pyrophosphate (TPP) functions as a co-enzyme for at least twenty enzymes, including enzymes essential for energy production in the tricarboxylic acid cycle [48]. TPP is involved in a step of the pentose phosphate cycle and α-oxidation of FAs [49, 50]. It also plays an important role in sustaining cellular reducing power by regulating NADH/NADPH balance [51]. Moreover, thiamine serves as a site-specific antioxidant [47, 51], specifically in preventing lipid peroxidation [52], and thiamine is thus depleted in peroxidation reactions [47, 51]."
-end paste-

I finally convinced my husband a few weeks ago to supplement with some TTFD thiamine, mainly because thiamine is known to chelate lead out of the system and he is a welder and inhaler of toxic fumes (lawn mower, tractor work). I can tell that his energy level has improved already; he's much more active now than before and he seems to be more upbeat. He's 71. I'll be on the lookout for skin improvements.

 

[Peatress]

"They are being used as weapons, it's part of the modern warfare to destabilize society and neutralize people." I agree with this statement @Guille Yacante

Countries that traditionally used ghee, coconut oil, palm oil have been flooded with liquid oils and the result is devastating.

Dr Peat was vociferous on pufa and most people who follow his work get this. There are a few exceptions and they are a minority but they will eventually come round because the body has a way of letting us know it has been wronged.

Thank you @mostlylurking just when I think I can't possibly learn anything new about thiamine.............

 

[Nick]

I finally convinced my husband a few weeks ago to supplement with some TTFD thiamine, mainly because thiamine is known to chelate lead out of the system and he is a welder and inhaler of toxic fumes (lawn mower, tractor work). I can tell that his energy level has improved already; he's much more active now than before and he seems to be more upbeat. He's 71. I'll be on the lookout for skin improvements.

For what it's worth I found the EMF generated by a stick welder to be far more damaging for me than even the fumes, at least in the short run. I felt it as soon as I turned the welder on and then exponentially more as soon as I struck an arc. I think this is an overlooked part of why welders tend to get so many diseases like leukemia although of course the fumes are a big part too. Thiamine would probably help some with the EMF damage as well. For me, I decided I will have to learn oxy-acetylene welding because 10 minutes with a stick welder and I feel basically diabetic no matter how good the ventilation and respirator mask I wear.

 

[mostlylurking]

"They are being used as weapons, it's part of the modern warfare to destabilize society and neutralize people." I agree with this statement @Guille Yacante

Countries that traditionally used ghee, coconut oil, palm oil have been flooded with liquid oils and the result is devastating.

Dr Peat was vociferous on pufa and most people who follow his work get this. There are a few exceptions and they are a minority but they will eventually come round because the body has a way of letting us know it has been wronged.

Thank you @mostlylurking just when I think I can't possibly learn anything new about thiamine.............

I agree that PUFAs are being used as weapons. I find the tie-in with PUFA causing thiamine deficiency very interesting, especially when the articles below are included in the concept:

A Disease Of Modern Civilization Threatens Eradication Of All Life On Planet Earth While World Leaders Are Distracted By The Contrived Crises Of The COVID/Great Reset

and

The Ocean’s Mysterious Thiamine Deficiency

The Ocean’s Mysterious Vitamin Deficiency | Hakai Magazine Full link above, some select quotes below. The Ocean’s Mysterious Vitamin Deficiency A puzzling lack of thiamine is disrupting some marine ecosystems. “In the early 20th century, a small and invasive herring species called the alewife...

raypeatforum.com

 

[Peatress]

I agree that PUFAs are being used as weapons. I find the tie-in with PUFA causing thiamine deficiency very interesting, especially when the articles below are included in the concept:

A Disease Of Modern Civilization Threatens Eradication Of All Life On Planet Earth While World Leaders Are Distracted By The Contrived Crises Of The COVID/Great Reset

That's a good article. He mentions sulphites @Beatrix_ posted about this too on my anemia thread.

 

[mostlylurking]

For what it's worth I found the EMF generated by a stick welder to be far more damaging for me than even the fumes, at least in the short run. I felt it as soon as I turned the welder on and then exponentially more as soon as I struck an arc. I think this is an overlooked part of why welders tend to get so many diseases like leukemia although of course the fumes are a big part too. Thiamine would probably help some with the EMF damage as well. For me, I decided I will have to learn oxy-acetylene welding because 10 minutes with a stick welder and I feel basically diabetic no matter how good the ventilation and respirator mask I wear.

Thanks for that info re. EMF generated by stick welding. The last few times my husband did much welding (fence work) at the end of the day he looked like he'd been hit by a truck. His eyes looked terrible. He still looked terrible the next morning. That's when I started pushing the thiamine idea again. I was afraid I was going to lose him. He mentioned today that he's thinking of increasing the TTFD to 3 capsules/day. So I'm pretty sure he has finally become a believer.

My husband does oxy-acetylene welding (I think - with an acetylene torch,right?); the past few days he has been doing TIG welding (whatever that is); he's been fabricating headers for his '48 Chevy hot rod truck.

Here's some info about EMF and thiamine:

EMF Hypersensitivity and Thiamine - Hormones Matter

Electromagnetic hypersensitivity syndrome (EHS) has gained increasing attention over the last few years.

www.hormonesmatter.com

edit: Stick welding is with brass welding rods, right? My husband does that, but not very often.

 

[Beatrix_]

That's a good article. He mentions sulphites @Beatrix_ posted about this too on my anemia thread.

Thanks for tagging me here!

 

[Nick]

Thanks for that info re. EMF generated by stick welding. The last few times my husband did much welding (fence work) at the end of the day he looked like he'd been hit by a truck. His eyes looked terrible. He still looked terrible the next morning. That's when I started pushing the thiamine idea again. I was afraid I was going to lose him. He mentioned today that he's thinking of increasing the TTFD to 3 capsules/day. So I'm pretty sure he has finally become a believer.

My husband does oxy-acetylene welding (I think - with an acetylene torch,right?); the past few days he has been doing TIG welding (whatever that is); he's been fabricating headers for his '48 Chevy hot rod truck.

Here's some info about EMF and thiamine:

EMF Hypersensitivity and Thiamine - Hormones Matter

Electromagnetic hypersensitivity syndrome (EHS) has gained increasing attention over the last few years.

www.hormonesmatter.com

edit: Stick welding is with brass welding rods, right? My husband does that, but not very often.

Welding with the acetylene torch would of course generate no EMF so then one only has to worry about minimizing the amount of fumes inhaled. I only have experience with stick welding (which is with a stick-shaped electrode/welding rod) but I would expect that the EMF from MIG and TIG welding might be a bit less if the strength of the electric current is typically lower. Usually the strength of the current used is somewhat proportional to the thickness of metal being welded.

I have personally found that thiamine seems to help mitigate some but not all of the effects of EMF.

 

[5LGreenback]

PUFA's are worse than a lot of people here may be thinking, or if they know they are forgetting.

I can see the focus on this forum all scattered, that's why people get confused or don't understand some topics like it has been in my case.

I have been overlooking and underestimating the PUFA subject for years, and now I am paying the consequences.

I wish it had been spoken of as it should have been.

They are being used as weapons, it's part of the modern warfare to destabilize society and neutralize people. And this is not to bring some conspiracy theory ambiance to the thread. What a lot of us have been doing is to be all scattered.

Let us not be minding "lowering serotonin" and taking tons of supplements. Newcomers here may get all confused and not make it much farther.

Where the focus should be kept is in avoiding PUFA's and neutralizing those that may be circling around in the detox process. It's really that dangerous. I can tell a lot of people go around with rashes on their face because of them. I can tell a lot of people develop "multiple sclerosis symptoms" because of them. Even autism, because autism is a symptom, out of all the oxidative stress.

So, even more dangerous than vaccines, more dangerous than pesticides, anything people could have been protecting themselves from, are PUFA's. Because they tend to be ingested everyday.

This has been making a lot of people fat, and even when they try to exercise they tend to feel worse. This has led a lot of people to experience manic symptoms when fasting for more than 24 hours. This has left a lot of people enduring endlessly what they think to be a syndrome of abstinence or a flatline, and they are never making it to the other side.

This is worse than we have been thinking and I want to bring the attention here.

I would say not even trust the so-labeled "olive oil" because there is a lot of fraud in that business. If anyone be pouring olive oil on anything, let him assume he is pouring some counterfeit product filled with sunflower oil or some garbage like that.

And by the way, the closure is, for us men, that we have to keep the focus in just two subjects: PUFA depletion and avoidance. And practicing semen retention with responsibility.

We are not to be scattered or minding nonsense.

Thank you.

Can someone elaborate on the semen retention?

 

[mostlylurking]

I have personally found that thiamine seems to help mitigate some but not all of the effects of EMF.

Thanks for that. Good to get the confirmation. Now I find that Thiamax TTFD thiamine is out of stock in the U.S. I'll be watching for its return.

 

[Guille Yacante]

Can someone elaborate on the semen retention?

I'll do it.

It has to do with optimizing mind and body.

It majorly means abstaining from sexual immorality, that's how it has to be seen.

When refraining from ejaculating, the man starts to build up his load, which is one important factor for nourishing all the body.

It's normal to feel more energetic, suffer less muscle soreness, and of course, have more sex drive, which should be channeled into whatever things the person would want to direct his life towards. It's all about energy.

With all of this, only if the person is not watching porn or masturbating, or any other kind of low vibration activity, the man will start to have some special glow in his life. Some grace. They are normally called the "superpowers". There is a lot of information about this on Reddit (r/semenretention or r/pureretention) besides the forums like NoFap, YourBrainOnPorn, Reboot Nation, etc. It's all about optimizing neurochemistry, energy levels, and not having anything on the conscience weighing one down.

Now, PUFA's toxicity could prevent much of this. This is why I brought up the topic.

And one last thing regarding semen retention is that the people that quit the habit of watching porn (this even affects women), or masturbating, they are to face a withdrawal stage in which things initially get worse before they get better, save the phenomenon of the "pink cloud", which then vanishes and leaves the person face to face with the syndrome of abstinence.

Again, there is much information on these platforms I shared.

And of course, the disclaimer: sex for marriage. Anything else, sexual immorality.
Sex for pleasure, but ejaculation for procreation.
No false dichotomies.

 

[Beatrix_]

I have personally found that thiamine seems to help mitigate some but not all of the effects of EMF.

In my personal case supplementation with magnesium oxide completely abolished my EMF sensitivity.