Could you let us know the amount of olive oil + grapefruit juice that you use?Mental clarity, the world suddenly makes sense, upbeat mood, better digestion.
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Could you let us know the amount of olive oil + grapefruit juice that you use?Mental clarity, the world suddenly makes sense, upbeat mood, better digestion.
1/2 cup juice (lemon, lime or grapefruit....not sure about orange) and 1/2c olive oil. Checkout the liver flush / liver cleanse facebook groups and pages especially the files sections for for info. Curezone has a good page about liver flush instructions too but I get a firewall warning. (u weren't asking me but I answered anywaysCould you let us know the amount of olive oil + grapefruit juice that you use?
Could you let us know the amount of olive oil + grapefruit juice that you use?
Yes Ive done same. The saponification theory is BS....otherwise we would get the same result each time.I made the experiment myself to debunk the "saponification" theory:
I mixed olive oil + grapefruit juice + HCL powder + bile powder and heated it at 37 degrees celcius for 12 hours.
No "saponification" happened.
If you needed yet another proof: I've used religiously the same liver flush recipe for the past three years.
Sometimes I get hundreds of stones, sometimes none, zero.
If the mixture "saponified", it would have to come out my anus each time anyways, and I would need to see the stones each time, right?
Yes Ive done same. The saponification theory is BS....otherwise we would get the same result each time.
Ive been dealing with overloaded liver due to parasite infestation for years and did a flush a month ago, got tiny stones, then a few days back did a 2nd one and got teaspoon sized stones and loads of them.
I had been suffering severe insomnia (awake all night every 2nd night) then after flushing Im sleeping every night.
Ive been dealing with overloaded liver due to parasite infestation for years and did a flush a month ago, got tiny stones, then a few days back did a 2nd one and got teaspoon sized stones and loads of them.
Ok so the info on the internet is that normal bile duct size is around 6mm while diluted 8mm, how do you explain your teaspoon sized stones went thru that duct?
@TheBeard Do you follow the Moritz protocol, including the preparation week? I'm wondering if one could just skip straight to the olive oil stage without completely undermining the process.
After the 25 flushes the gallbladder stones stopped coming out with future flushes (unless a LONG time passed). Sometime after I was on a 3 day juice fast, I seemed to get a die off reaction (aka herx), I felt doofusy like I was on drugs or something then it quickly passed and it got permenantly more quiet in my head and thoughts were easier to manage.
On a parasite cleanse my bruxism was cured as well (more info about this in link at end). Those last two were not necessarily related to the liver flush but I do believe completing the liver flushes contributed.
Teeth Grinding (Bruxism) Cured by Parasite (Pinworms?) cleansing
View: https://drive.google.com/file/d/14ATq_3YvKhgOQP7viknjk8Ync3ykqKe0/view?usp=sharing
I expell hundreds of stone with a much simpler protocole:
- no food on D-day
- bitters a few hours before the flush
- 500 ml of equal parts freshly pressed lemon and grapefruit juice mixed with 125 ml olive oil before bed
- epsom salts upon waking
that's it.
It works A LOT better than when I use only 125 ml juice.
No need to use epsom salts BEFORE the flush.
I drink apple juice on a daily basis regardless of the protocole, maybe that helps.
Thanks, that's great to know! The six day preparation state sounded like such a hassle. Bitters means a specific type of alcohol, right?I expell hundreds of stone with a much simpler protocole:
- no food on D-day
- bitters a few hours before the flush
- 500 ml of equal parts freshly pressed lemon and grapefruit juice mixed with 125 ml olive oil before bed
- epsom salts upon waking
that's it.
It works A LOT better than when I use only 125 ml juice.
No need to use epsom salts BEFORE the flush.
I drink apple juice on a daily basis regardless of the protocole, maybe that helps.
Thanks, that's great to know! The six day preparation state sounded like such a hassle. Bitters means a specific type of alcohol, right?
Ray Peat himself told me years ago that huge doses of vitamin c damage the large or small intestine and create free radicals. Not sure I noticed any damage or felt worse after but I did notice large parasites coming out right away and these strange ones came out 2 or 3 weeks into the protocol. Maybe it's OK short term. If anyone can identify the parasites that left me please do, they looked like large white-ish grey-ish pods or seeds... Can anyone identify these parasites? (NON graphic)This is very useful/valuable information. Thank you. I didn't know about the salt/vitamin c protocoll.
I'll keep my eye on this thread. Super interesting.
Im thinking about trying it.
So no food on the day where u take the bitters and the lemon/fruit juice + olive oil?
Ray Peat himself told me years ago that huge doses of vitamin c damage the large or small intestine and create free radicals. Not sure I noticed any damage or felt worse after but I did notice large parasites coming out right away and these strange ones came out 2 or 3 weeks into the protocol. Maybe it's OK short term. If anyone can identify the parasites that left me please do, they looked like large white-ish grey-ish pods or seeds... Can anyone identify these parasites? (NON graphic)
I would highly recommend NOT cutting corners or oversimplifying with the liver gallbladder flush especially if you are inexperienced. Andreas Moritz describes it as major liver gallbladder surgery.
If I remember correctly the 6 day preparation (not including the day and day before) is only increased malic acid. That means more apples or juice, apple cider vinegar, cherries or cherry juice, or pomegranate juice or whatever.
Some have reported "stuck stones" (which I haven't experienced in around 40 flushes) and they weren't necessarily on his protocol either.
Have a Facebook account and then I highly recommend combing through the files section...
"Liver and Gallbladder Flush for Optimal Health" group Log into Facebook
Stuck stone protocol
View: https://www.facebook.com/notes/liver-and-gallbladder-flush-for-optimal-health/stuck-stone-protocol/545640195619632/
@TheSir
I noticed the smell as soon as they came out, as opposed to only after examination later. Unusual BM smells are a sign of parasites being expelled. Some thought they were tapeworm pieces of tapeworm "proglottids", I guess they could be but I thought they were a little too shaped esp because they had a narrowing that seemed to lead to their mouths (which were a small opening where stool seeped out).I cant say anything about these pods. You say they are empty or filled with stool. The stool would explain the smell. But to be honest any "examined" stool will smell awfull.
Now my guess would be that these guys are either just some sort of waste or some stuff from one of the organs that were able to detach trough your fluid/fruit fast.
Or they are leftovers from parasites that have grown into adults. Like some shell leftovers or something.
Them being empty tho sounds like they are not likely parasites themself. But i have no idea so im just speculating here.
Do you have any additional FB groups for this, or the exact protocol you use? Curious about this, as I have liver issues, and do coffee enemas every once and awhile and definitely see some weird (foul) smelling stuff after.I noticed the smell as soon as they came out, as opposed to only after examination later. Unusual BM smells are a sign of parasites being expelled. Some thought they were tapeworm pieces of tapeworm "proglottids", I guess they could be but I thought they were a little too shaped esp because they had a narrowing that seemed to lead to their mouths (which were a small opening where stool seeped out).
I thought I shared that already but there it is again. When I do it (which isn't often) I sort of go at it willy nilly when it comes to the optional stuff.Do you have any additional FB groups for this, or the exact protocol you use? Curious about this, as I have liver issues, and do coffee enemas every once and awhile and definitely see some weird (foul) smelling stuff after.