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I originally posted this as a question to Haidut in the Tyromax thread but I thought I'd start it as a new thread in case anyone had a similar experience.
I've been using NDT for a while, but have recently encountered a few problems and I am not sure if NDT is the cause or if it is the result of a combination of NDT and Pregnenolone
I have found that taking any more than a quarter of a grain of NDT gives me heart palpitations, these are usually triggered by the slightest amount of stress. I am not entirely sure though if its being caused by the NDT by itself or the combination of NDT and pregnenolone. I've been taking Pregnenolone daily for about 4 months and NDT for about 8 months. I slowly worked my way up to 1.5 grains. but I have had to reduce it significantly until the point where I can only take one drop a day to not feel any heart palpitations. Since reducing my NDT I have had some acne on my face and scalp.
I have found some information suggesting that supplementing with both pregnenolone and NDT may lead to heart palpitations because of a temporary situation where ones thyroid hormones are too high in relation to cortisol.
Here is the explanation I found.
" Symptoms of T3-is-in-excess-of-cortisol (same as cortisol-is-too-low-compared-to-T3) are awareness of your heart beat / erratic heart beat - this has a complex explanation: it's due to an initial increase in metabolic rate causing an initial boost in cells absorbing both cortisol and thryoid hormones, followed by running low on thyroid hormones, followed by temporary ACTH suppression due to excess cortisol due to excess preg. Result is temporary excess of thyroid hormones in relation to cortisol. Try decreasing preg to reduce the likelihood of ACTH suppression, or switch from oral to TD preg to slow absorption of preg to prevent the excess cortisol."
Since pregnenolone reduces cortisol and NDT will raise T3. Is it possible that taking NDT and Pregnenolone together is what is causing my symptoms and if so what anyone recommend doing?.
My Questions:
Could the combination of NDT and Pregnenolone lead to the problems I am experiencing?
Could pregnenolone in excess raise cortisol levels, paradoxically after it reduces them? If so, should one stop pregenolone supplementation altogether because your body doesn't need it as indicated by the side effect of heart palpitations.
Or could it be that the NDT is causing the heart palpitations and acne with no relation to pregnenolone
Thanks.
I've been using NDT for a while, but have recently encountered a few problems and I am not sure if NDT is the cause or if it is the result of a combination of NDT and Pregnenolone
I have found that taking any more than a quarter of a grain of NDT gives me heart palpitations, these are usually triggered by the slightest amount of stress. I am not entirely sure though if its being caused by the NDT by itself or the combination of NDT and pregnenolone. I've been taking Pregnenolone daily for about 4 months and NDT for about 8 months. I slowly worked my way up to 1.5 grains. but I have had to reduce it significantly until the point where I can only take one drop a day to not feel any heart palpitations. Since reducing my NDT I have had some acne on my face and scalp.
I have found some information suggesting that supplementing with both pregnenolone and NDT may lead to heart palpitations because of a temporary situation where ones thyroid hormones are too high in relation to cortisol.
Here is the explanation I found.
" Symptoms of T3-is-in-excess-of-cortisol (same as cortisol-is-too-low-compared-to-T3) are awareness of your heart beat / erratic heart beat - this has a complex explanation: it's due to an initial increase in metabolic rate causing an initial boost in cells absorbing both cortisol and thryoid hormones, followed by running low on thyroid hormones, followed by temporary ACTH suppression due to excess cortisol due to excess preg. Result is temporary excess of thyroid hormones in relation to cortisol. Try decreasing preg to reduce the likelihood of ACTH suppression, or switch from oral to TD preg to slow absorption of preg to prevent the excess cortisol."
Since pregnenolone reduces cortisol and NDT will raise T3. Is it possible that taking NDT and Pregnenolone together is what is causing my symptoms and if so what anyone recommend doing?.
My Questions:
Could the combination of NDT and Pregnenolone lead to the problems I am experiencing?
Could pregnenolone in excess raise cortisol levels, paradoxically after it reduces them? If so, should one stop pregenolone supplementation altogether because your body doesn't need it as indicated by the side effect of heart palpitations.
Or could it be that the NDT is causing the heart palpitations and acne with no relation to pregnenolone
Thanks.