WEIGHING STARCHES CAREFULLY (w/pics)

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“The commonly recommended alternative to sugar in the diet is starch, but many studies show that it produces all of the effects that are commonly ascribed to sucrose and fructose, for example hyperglycemia (Villaume, et al., 1984) and increased weight gain.” -Ray Peat
 
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“An older experiment compared two groups with an otherwise well balanced diet, lacking vitamin D, containing either 68% starch or 68% sucrose. A third group got the starch diet, but with added vitamin D. The rats on the vitamin D deficient starch diet had very low levels of calcium in their blood, and the calcium content of their bones was low, exactly what is expected with the vitamin D deficiency. However, the rats on the sucrose diet, also vitamin D deficient, had normal levels of calcium in their blood.” -Ray Peat
 
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Here is your baked potato….

“Stress seems to be perceived as a need for sugar. In the absence of sucrose, satisfying this need with starch and fat is more likely to lead to obesity.” -Ray Peat
 

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Q. If you are offered either white bread or white rice, which one would you choose? I heard white rice reduces androgens that’s why Asian men have a lot less hair than other races..

Ray Peat said:

"In general, I think white rice is safer. Real sourdough bread, in which most of the gluten has been degraded, is probably about as safe as rice. I think nixtamalized corn is the safest." -Ray Peat
 
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“Safer” doesn’t mean good. I think RP chose rice to be safer because it digests quicker, not brewing and breading as long as other starches lingering too long. It is like walking on hot coals barefoot, the quicker you are at getting across them, to the other side, the less you’ll get burned.
 
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“Starch is less harmful when eaten with saturated fat, but it’s still more fattening than sugars.” -Ray Peat
 
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When it comes to starches, potatoes have the most logical benefits. Unlike grains they were not intended for the animals and they don't takeaway more than they give, like grains. To minimize their "cons" i like to boil them. If I am making a stew I cut up and pre-boil the potatoes before adding at the end of my soup. This not only removes a lot of the oxalates, but also it removes a lot of starch, which can be seen in the cloudy water that gets dumped. Even when I make my french fries I pre-boil the potatoes and let them dry on paper towels for a half hour or more before frying in coconut oil. The same goes for hash browns, boil the potatoes first and cool before grating them up and frying in refined coconut oil. They stay light and fluffy too!
“19. Potatoes (18%)

Potatoes are incredibly versatile and a staple food in many households. They are often among the first foods that come to mind when you think of starchy foods.

Interestingly, potatoes don’t contain as much starch as flours, baked goods or cereals, but they do contain more starch than other vegetables.

For instance, a medium-sized baked potato (138 grams) contains 24.8 grams of starch, or 18% by weight.

Potatoes are an excellent part of a balanced diet because they are a great source of vitamin C, vitamin B6, folate, potassium and manganese (50).“

 
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Here is how I weighed my starches carefully today! I needed something to help get the “medicine” down, my liver. So I paired it with a 15 carb, low PUFA, Hawaiian-style sweet roll, made with coconut oil.
 

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Here is how I weighed my starches carefully today! I needed something to help get the “medicine” down, my liver. So I paired it with a 15 carb, low PUFA, Hawaiian-style sweet roll, made with coconut oil.

Oh, yay! Sweet rolls! My dad has been wanting them, but all the brands I’ve come across contain so much junk. Thank you for posting this, Rinse. Did you get them at Whole Foods?
 
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Oh, yay! Sweet rolls! My dad has been wanting them, but all the brands I’ve come across contain so much junk. Thank you for posting this, Rinse. Did you get them at Whole Foods?
I got them in my local farm box delivery. They deliver local fresh picked produce, but also offer groceries. They are tastier than the “King’s Hawaiian” ones. Here is their contact on the back of the package…
 

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Thank you for the info, @Rinse & rePeat. :) I checked their site, but they don’t ship to New Hampshire. Bummer! I’ll check Whole Foods and see if they can order it, since the product site says it’s sold there. If not, I guess I can try making my own. I have a milk bread recipe that I think may be similar to sweet bread. My dad likes really soft bread like the highly processed ones that contain dough conditioners. I’ve tried all the natural breads I could find, but they dry out fast and he hates the crust. He’s the only person I’ve ever met who doesn’t like freshly baked bread. lol The best one I’ve found so far that is soft enough for him is the Nature’s Own Perfectly Crafted Brioche. Not great, but at least the fat used is butter. Anyhow, thanks again!
 
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Thank you for the info, @Rinse & rePeat. :) I checked their site, but they don’t ship to New Hampshire. Bummer! I’ll check Whole Foods and see if they can order it, since the product site says it’s sold there. If not, I guess I can try making my own. I have a milk bread recipe that I think may be similar to sweet bread. My dad likes really soft bread like the highly processed ones that contain dough conditioners. I’ve tried all the natural breads I could find, but they dry out fast and he hates the crust. He’s the only person I’ve ever met who doesn’t like freshly baked bread. lol The best one I’ve found so far that is soft enough for him is the Nature’s Own Perfectly Crafted Brioche. Not great, but at least the fat used is butter. Anyhow, thanks again!
Let us know if and where you find them Jennifer. I don’t get that farm box delivered on a regular basis, so I would like to know where else to find them too.
 
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In search of the best flour tortilla, I have settled in this new one I found recently. Though the one I have been using is lower in fat and carbs it has twice the polyunsaturated fats as the one I have been using. Not only do they have half the PUFA as the others, but it is made with only four ingredients, and the texture and taste is like homemade. They feel healthy too! I found them in the freezer department of my local health food store.
 

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“Both sweet potatoes and potatoes contain similar amounts of fibre (2.1g and 1.6g in 100g of sweet and regular potatoes respectively) but boiled potatoes contain almost twice the amount of starch compared to boiled sweet potatoes (15.2g compared to 8.1g per 100g).”

 
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“Enzymes are released during the sprouting process, which break down proteins and carbohydrates. This process helps make sprouted grain food low glycemic and easier to digest. Traditional grain breads are harder to digest, and the body loses a good portion of the nutrients because it is unable to digest them.”
 
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I finally found some masa tortillas, without the guar gum and other junky stuff. These fried up really good and crispy in refined coconut oil. I found them in the freezer section, probably because there are no preservatives to help them keep for a long time on a shelf.
 

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I finally found some masa tortillas, without the guar gum and other junky stuff. These fried up really good and crispy in refined coconut oil. I found them in the freezer section, probably because there are no preservatives to help them keep for a long time on a shelf.
Nix Corn tortillas are great, No prob.
 
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