Hello everyone I'm new to this forum I don't know if this is the right forum for my brother's problem. I have an alcoholic brother who has been drunk every day, I' worried for his health I know that there is a lot of harmful effects of abusing alcohol. I can't convince him to stop drinking and to go to hospital. What should I do? I hope someone can help me here.
-
By using this site you agree to the terms, rules, and privacy policy.
-
Charlie's Restoration Giveaway #2 (Entire Home EMF Mitigation & Protection Along With Personal Protection) - Click Here To Enter
-
Dear Carnivore Dieters, A Muscle Meat Only Diet is Extremely Healing Because it is a Low "vitamin A" Diet. This is Why it Works so Well...
Rest the rest of this post by clicking here
-
The Forum is transitioning to a subscription-based membership model - Click Here To Read
Click Here if you want to upgrade your account
If you were able to post but cannot do so now, send an email to admin at raypeatforum dot com and include your username and we will fix that right up for you.
Need help for my brother's health
- Thread starter toddy
- Start date
I think you are right that large and frequent alcohol consumption is hard on health (and on having a life).
I have heard many people recommend alanon as good for family members of people struggling with alcohol addiction.
I think Peat's approach would be to try to meet nutritional needs, assess whether any hormone supplementation is likely to be helpful, and see if these things can reduce craving/dependence on alcohol. He has a story about a man he knew who sobered up for a goal he wanted.
I have heard many people recommend alanon as good for family members of people struggling with alcohol addiction.
I think Peat's approach would be to try to meet nutritional needs, assess whether any hormone supplementation is likely to be helpful, and see if these things can reduce craving/dependence on alcohol. He has a story about a man he knew who sobered up for a goal he wanted.
Ray Peat said:
Such_Saturation
Member
- Joined
- Nov 26, 2013
- Messages
- 7,370
I think if you can get some thiamine in him, which is very hard when drinking, it will stop the progression of the habit. Even just eating more and drinking more coffee with sugar will stop the craving, the inebriation is just a placeholder until you discover other ways to get energy, and it stops being interesting after that.
marcar72
Member
As Tara mentioned, you should check out some Al-anon meetings. It's for loved ones of alcoholics. Basically they'll probably tell you there's nothing you can really do to help except to not help. Don't be an enabler, they'll say.
Basically you have to have a tough love approach to it. If you're brother drinks and gets fired from his job, then asks you for rent money... don't do it. Stuff like that. Don't enable his poor choices. Let him feel the full repercussions of his alcoholic behavior. Maybe he'll then "see the light" and go to Alcoholics' Anonymous.
So Al-anon is definately where you'll find the answers you're looking for. What I provided is just a very general overview of how they deal with it. Don't let your brother's disease make you sick. :2cents
Basically you have to have a tough love approach to it. If you're brother drinks and gets fired from his job, then asks you for rent money... don't do it. Stuff like that. Don't enable his poor choices. Let him feel the full repercussions of his alcoholic behavior. Maybe he'll then "see the light" and go to Alcoholics' Anonymous.
So Al-anon is definately where you'll find the answers you're looking for. What I provided is just a very general overview of how they deal with it. Don't let your brother's disease make you sick. :2cents
Such_Saturation
Member
- Joined
- Nov 26, 2013
- Messages
- 7,370
toddy said:
Rather, convince him to try some foods and supplements. You can't even drink when your stomach is full.
Such_Saturation
Member
- Joined
- Nov 26, 2013
- Messages
- 7,370
Great!
Amazoniac
Member
Hi!
Honestly, I don't think you did if when you say that you convinced him you meant to stop drinking, rather than adopting a better diet and lifestyle. But it's great that he is willing to..
Also, I don't believe it's going to be that simple. Promises most of the time are only worth in the moment. If you are starving, deficient or overly stressed; it will speak louder than any promise.
If he doesn't have a deep reason to do the change, he won't, just like any of us wouldn't. And as Marcar pointed out, feeling the consequences (alone) and knowing that there is a better route (offered by you) is the best strategy. But he has to face it to decide by himself.
In an interview, Jim Morrison said:
"I offer images — I conjure memories of freedom that can still be reached — like the Doors, right? But we can only open the doors, we can't drag people through. I can't free them unless they want to be free."
It applies pretty well in your case.
Edit:
In other words, showing is more effective than saying.
Honestly, I don't think you did if when you say that you convinced him you meant to stop drinking, rather than adopting a better diet and lifestyle. But it's great that he is willing to..
Also, I don't believe it's going to be that simple. Promises most of the time are only worth in the moment. If you are starving, deficient or overly stressed; it will speak louder than any promise.
If he doesn't have a deep reason to do the change, he won't, just like any of us wouldn't. And as Marcar pointed out, feeling the consequences (alone) and knowing that there is a better route (offered by you) is the best strategy. But he has to face it to decide by himself.
In an interview, Jim Morrison said:
"I offer images — I conjure memories of freedom that can still be reached — like the Doors, right? But we can only open the doors, we can't drag people through. I can't free them unless they want to be free."
It applies pretty well in your case.
Edit:
In other words, showing is more effective than saying.
Such_Saturation
Member
- Joined
- Nov 26, 2013
- Messages
- 7,370
Amazoniac said:
If you know what it's like to physically crave whiskey then you understand how simple this is: it stops being alluring.
EMF Mitigation - Flush Niacin - Big 5 Minerals
Similar threads
