Chazman224
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I've had a miriade of health issues, first starting with severe hypoglycemic episodes over 2 years ago to the point of nearly blacking out multiple times, these slowly went away but then the insomnia and nocturia crept in, that being waking up at 2-3am and not being able to go back to sleep and pissing 3-4 times a night.
Blood tests last year revealed extremely low levels of DHEA 1.24 umol/L and high cholesterol at 4.79 mmol/L, HDL 1.36 mmol/L and LDL over range at 3.10 mmol/L. Thyroid results from this year
TSH 0.9 mU/L, free T4 17.2 pmol/L, 5.59 pmol/L.
I've been spending the past 2 years trying to piece together this intricate little puzzle. I've managed to reduce my frequent urination and nocturia down to only once a night which is a big win. This was mostly through pelvic floor stretching and exercises I believe. Supplementing DHEA and pregnenolone helped somewhat aswell.
Through this I tried many different diets such as Keto / low carb and even a few weeks of carnivore which I felt awful on, and in hindsight this has probably damaged my adrenals / thyroid / liver even more.
So where I'm at now after a recent sleep study is I have very mild sleep apnea and a high RDI which is essentially arousals from sleep which seems to line up with what people call UARS, I think this is a red herring and the reason I arouse so much is simply due to high cortisol / adrenaline while I sleep. Sleep apnea / UARS is not the root cause of my issues otherwise I would have had this issue my whole life. My nose and sinuses are structurly fine and have remained unchanged, I have perfect tongue posture and nose breath 24/7 and this is confirmed by using my tape at night as it makes no difference and my GF says she never sees me breath out my mouth. I am not over weight and my neck is not too thick. I have been doing myo functional exercises for months and have seen barely any improvement on sleep quality. I simply believe it is the messed up thyroid and adrenals causing arousals and ******* up my breathing.
I've been on a peaty diet for 2 weeks now with eating mostly the following:
- Kefir, honey and berries for breakfast
- Couple glasses of milk throughout the day
- Prawns, cottage cheese, olives and tropical fruit mix for lunch
- Big glass of orange juice and baking soda before a workout
- Ground beef, honey and pineapple for dinner
- generous amounts of salt which each meal and an electrolyte supplement
I sleep much more soundly and I haven't noticed any conscious arousals from sleep since peating, only once a night to piss. I do however wake up at least an hour or two before my alarm is due to go off every single night, this is annoying but I still feel considerably better than before, I've tried honey or OJ with an electrolyte supplement / salt and it rarely works to put me back to sleep. But my sleep quality has dramatically improved and I can basically function now on 8 1/2 hours whereas before I would need 9 1/2 - 11 hours. Another big win.
I just need some help piecing together this thyroid and adrenals puzzle, to sort out these early morning awakenings with high cortisol /adrenalin. It's the last bits and I feel so damn close!
So starting with adrenals right now I'm not experiencing any symptoms in the day anymore that I can really point to them, other than an exaggerated stress response and low energy but again this could be thyroid there's seems to be much overlap in symptoms. When I wake up too early I feel the symptoms of high adrenaline / cortisol very strongly and sweaty / hot even though I keep my room very cool.
So my thyroid looks good on paper, or so what I've been told by doctors, they even say I'm on the edge of hyper thyroid apparently! However through much research on this forum I am thinking that possibly my thyroid is just not being utilisied, possibly due to low day time cortisol?? The most telling symptoms I have of being hypothyroid is I have extremely cold feet 24/7 doesn't matter room temp and even if I'm exercising, my hands and nose are not so bad but are also consistently cold and I also have a resting pulse of 55-57 bpm everyday according to my fitbit, I am yet to take my temp but I have a thermometer on the way.
I have some adrenal cortex by Thorne on the way and some bovine NDT. I just need to know how I should be dosing these as there is conflicting information depending on if your adrenals are messed up or not some people say NDT makes them feel even worse...
If I could ask
@Hans
@FitnessMike
To chime in with their opinions as they seem to have a lot of knowledge and/or experience with these issues, I would very much appreciate it.
Also
Supplements I'm currently taking
- 50mg x1 pregnenolone before bed
- 10mg x1 topical dhea gel on testicles before bed
- seriphos x3 before bed
- milk peptides / lactium x1 before bed
- 3g magnesium glycinate before bed
And I'm about to start taking TUDCA and possibly some taurine for liver health as this could be a big part of my issues.
Blood tests last year revealed extremely low levels of DHEA 1.24 umol/L and high cholesterol at 4.79 mmol/L, HDL 1.36 mmol/L and LDL over range at 3.10 mmol/L. Thyroid results from this year
TSH 0.9 mU/L, free T4 17.2 pmol/L, 5.59 pmol/L.
I've been spending the past 2 years trying to piece together this intricate little puzzle. I've managed to reduce my frequent urination and nocturia down to only once a night which is a big win. This was mostly through pelvic floor stretching and exercises I believe. Supplementing DHEA and pregnenolone helped somewhat aswell.
Through this I tried many different diets such as Keto / low carb and even a few weeks of carnivore which I felt awful on, and in hindsight this has probably damaged my adrenals / thyroid / liver even more.
So where I'm at now after a recent sleep study is I have very mild sleep apnea and a high RDI which is essentially arousals from sleep which seems to line up with what people call UARS, I think this is a red herring and the reason I arouse so much is simply due to high cortisol / adrenaline while I sleep. Sleep apnea / UARS is not the root cause of my issues otherwise I would have had this issue my whole life. My nose and sinuses are structurly fine and have remained unchanged, I have perfect tongue posture and nose breath 24/7 and this is confirmed by using my tape at night as it makes no difference and my GF says she never sees me breath out my mouth. I am not over weight and my neck is not too thick. I have been doing myo functional exercises for months and have seen barely any improvement on sleep quality. I simply believe it is the messed up thyroid and adrenals causing arousals and ******* up my breathing.
I've been on a peaty diet for 2 weeks now with eating mostly the following:
- Kefir, honey and berries for breakfast
- Couple glasses of milk throughout the day
- Prawns, cottage cheese, olives and tropical fruit mix for lunch
- Big glass of orange juice and baking soda before a workout
- Ground beef, honey and pineapple for dinner
- generous amounts of salt which each meal and an electrolyte supplement
I sleep much more soundly and I haven't noticed any conscious arousals from sleep since peating, only once a night to piss. I do however wake up at least an hour or two before my alarm is due to go off every single night, this is annoying but I still feel considerably better than before, I've tried honey or OJ with an electrolyte supplement / salt and it rarely works to put me back to sleep. But my sleep quality has dramatically improved and I can basically function now on 8 1/2 hours whereas before I would need 9 1/2 - 11 hours. Another big win.
I just need some help piecing together this thyroid and adrenals puzzle, to sort out these early morning awakenings with high cortisol /adrenalin. It's the last bits and I feel so damn close!
So starting with adrenals right now I'm not experiencing any symptoms in the day anymore that I can really point to them, other than an exaggerated stress response and low energy but again this could be thyroid there's seems to be much overlap in symptoms. When I wake up too early I feel the symptoms of high adrenaline / cortisol very strongly and sweaty / hot even though I keep my room very cool.
So my thyroid looks good on paper, or so what I've been told by doctors, they even say I'm on the edge of hyper thyroid apparently! However through much research on this forum I am thinking that possibly my thyroid is just not being utilisied, possibly due to low day time cortisol?? The most telling symptoms I have of being hypothyroid is I have extremely cold feet 24/7 doesn't matter room temp and even if I'm exercising, my hands and nose are not so bad but are also consistently cold and I also have a resting pulse of 55-57 bpm everyday according to my fitbit, I am yet to take my temp but I have a thermometer on the way.
I have some adrenal cortex by Thorne on the way and some bovine NDT. I just need to know how I should be dosing these as there is conflicting information depending on if your adrenals are messed up or not some people say NDT makes them feel even worse...
If I could ask
@Hans
@FitnessMike
To chime in with their opinions as they seem to have a lot of knowledge and/or experience with these issues, I would very much appreciate it.
Also
Supplements I'm currently taking
- 50mg x1 pregnenolone before bed
- 10mg x1 topical dhea gel on testicles before bed
- seriphos x3 before bed
- milk peptides / lactium x1 before bed
- 3g magnesium glycinate before bed
And I'm about to start taking TUDCA and possibly some taurine for liver health as this could be a big part of my issues.
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