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Nothing else? Are you sure?I feel nothing from d3 supplementation even at 100k a day and with k2. Sunlight/uvb is an instant massive improvement. Supps are bs, all of them. Moneygrab, nothing else.
How much calcium are you getting?Honestly not much. I actually was thinking I was vitamin d deficient based off of my symptoms. Maybe keeping vitamin d levels at a good range long term will improve symptoms/increase calcium absorption? I grew up with slight scoliosis and teeth issues so I’m going to try to keep my vitamin d above 50ng/ml for a couple months. I’ll report back.
I’m just not sure why I couldn’t increase my D levels from sunbathing. I’m pretty tan, never burn and can sunbathe for hours but my level always stays low unless I supplement.
No other cofactors. I don’t trust vitamin a supplements and I’ve always had issues with k2. I’ve been taking a bit of thyroid lately but I don’t think that fixed my level because last time I supplemented tyromix my vitamin d eventually fell back down to 20ng/ml.
I’ve ranged from 500mg to 6g a day from dairy and never really noticed a difference. I think I don’t absorb vitamins properly in my intestines.How much calcium are you getting?
Ok!I’ve ranged from 500mg to 6g a day from dairy and never really noticed a difference. I think I don’t absorb vitamins properly in my intestines.
I disagree. I also took 100k Vitamin D along with big amounts of Vitamin K and Magnesium and my cold/infection that I once had was gone very fast with complete suppression of symptoms, almost like when you titrate Vitamin C/ascorbic acid to bowel tolerance. Both Vit C and D are LEGIT, maybe you have to take more and for a longer time.I feel nothing from d3 supplementation even at 100k a day and with k2. Sunlight/uvb is a instant massive improvement. Supps are bs, all of them. Moneygrab, nothing else.
This is true, vitamin D tests are inaccurate. When the body is low in D it releases it’s reserves and getting a vitamin D test at that point would say the D levels are high, which they aren’t.6. Screening for vitamin D deficiency leads to hundreds of millions of dollars wasted in unnecessary testing costs annually.
hink transdermal magnesium like @haidut new Magnoil is a better approach. I take progesterone and get cramps in my arms which magnesium alleviates. If you consume dairy you should get enough Vit. D.
This happened to me, and when I gave up the supplements and drank milk instead I never had another stone issue. I did not realize that vitamin D was a contributor though.7. Low-level daily supplementation with calcium and vitamin D can increase the risk of kidney stones. Magnesium deficiency plays a large and unrecognized role in these results.
Very interesting, I did not know that.This is true, vitamin D tests are inaccurate. When the body is low in D it releases it’s reserves and getting a vitamin D test at that point would say the D levels are high, which they aren’t.
Is there any further information about this?This is true, vitamin D tests are inaccurate. When the body is low in D it releases it’s reserves and getting a vitamin D test at that point would say the D levels are high, which they aren’t.
Join the FB group Secosteroid Hormone D, Jim Stephenson Jr. has much info on these topics.Is there any further information about this?
I saw this thread and it makes me wonder more about vitamin D supplements. Here are some of the responses…Is there any further information about this?
Ha! Ha! Ha!Vitamin D supplements literally turn a person into stone. Don't be a stoner.
Dr Peat was clearly in favor of vitamin d.
View: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/53-vitamin-d-calcium-and-mineral-metabolism-with-dr/id1488713797?i=1000526335665
Preview
#53 - Vitamin D, Calcium and mineral metabolism with Dr Ray Peat and Kate DeeringWeight Loss For Women: eat more, train less, get results
We’ve had Dr. Peat on the podcast before, and it actually ended up being our most downloaded WinAtLife podcast. So, we brought him back again to discuss vitamin D, calcium and mineral metabolism.
- Nutrition
There’s so much good information in this one! Dr. Peat offers up a lot of clarity when it comes to the great vitamin D debate. So, should you supplement vitamin D? Should you not? What else should you know when it comes to vitamin D and your metabolic health?
As a reminder Vitamin D has many names
The three most mentioned in this podcast are
Cholecalciferol also known as D3 (what is in food or supplements)
"Stored D" also know as calcidiol / 25OHD /hydroxycholecalciferol
"Active D" also know as calcitriol / 1,25D
Dr. Peat uses the references of 25OHD /hydroxycholecalciferol (stored) and 1,25D (active)
In this episode we talk about...
The purpose of Vitamin D
How is vitamin D metabolised and stored
How much D is too much?
The difference between Active and Stored Vitamin D
Can "stored D" have active properties?
Is elevated Active D (1,25D) a good thing?
Do Vitamin D supplements suppress the immune system?
The Vitamin D "receptor" theory-is it correct?
Are blood levels of stored D (25OHD) correct?
What are optimal stored Vitamin D levels?
The relationship between D and Ca
Understanding the importance of parathyroid hormone (PTH)
What can affect PTH besides Calcium and Vitamin D
What causes calcified tissue
Understanding the calcium -magnesium connection
What ratios, if any, are optimal for minerals?
Understanding Hair Tissue Mineral Analysis? Are they accurate?
Check out the entire podcast episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcast, Stitcher, and iHeart Radio by searching for The Winatlife Podcast.
At the end of the podcast, Ray was asked about a study involving Vitamin D supplements and Bone density.
Here is the study and his answer:
Effect of High-Dose Vitamin D Supplementation on Volumetric Bone Density and Bone Strength
A Randomized Clinical Trial.
"They didn’t control their phosphate intake, so it’s possible that the high dose D was now and then increasing the 1,25-dihydroxy D, taking some calcium out of the bone. A problem with judging bone mineral content with x-rays is that, in stress, the fat in bone is reduced, and replaced by water, causing more of the x-rays to be absorbed, making the bone seem denser.
High-dose vitamin D without extra calcium supplementation has been associated with increased levels of the active vitamin D metabolite 1, 25(OH)2 vitamin D (calcitriol), and an increase in CTx."
Yes. Big difference between “fan of Vitamin D” and “fan of supplemental Vitamin D”.I understand that Peat did not use D orally, he may have been in favor of the secosteroid, biochemically speaking, and I don't personally recall him recommending to use oral D. Some people just assume that if a health expert or scientist talks about the benefits of D, they are referring to 'taking D orally', when they may just be talking about what that compound is good for, or does in the body.
He used it topically.I understand that Peat did not use D orally, he may have been in favor of the secosteroid, biochemically speaking, and I don't personally recall him recommending to use oral D. Some people just assume that if a health expert or scientist talks about the benefits of D, they are referring to 'taking D orally', when they may just be talking about what that compound is good for, or does in the body.