Hi all! I've been lurking for a while but finally decided to post a log of sorts. I feel I could use some specific pointers for some things I've encountered, so I'll lay out the context.
After being in the Weston a price world for about 5 years and the Peaty world for about 3, I was super skeptical of all of this. But Poisoning For Profits had overwhelming evidence imo and I figured what do I have to lose? The problem may lie in the fact that I'm an all or nothing kind of person.
I was eating a super high fat diet up until 3 weeks ago. Mostly from dairy-- raw cow and goat milk, and organic grass fed cheeses and yogurt. I'm very meticulous in choosing my brands, but come to find out a couple of them may have been fortified, unbeknownst to me. I also have always incorporated liver, whether through liver shots, paté, or dessicated supplements. I don't consume it religiously though, and mostly it's been cycling in and out of my diet for the last 3 years, as well as things like carrot salads. But overall I believe I've been eating a high vitamin and copper diet (and relatively low vitamin bs because of a bias against grains and legumes,) for quite some time.
Within 4 days of starting niacin and low vitamin a, my eyes became tender and sensitive to light. That seems to come and go and fluctuates day to day. About a week in, I developed a small patch of dry skin on my left hand. They look like small bumps filled with fluid, and can be very itchy at times. These are new issues to me, so I eased back a little bit, and added in 1 egg a day and an occasional glass of raw milk, but otherwise I was getting little to no vitamin a.
Two weeks in, I got a zinc supplement. I took a very small dose for 2 days-- about 5-7mg. I got raging flu symptoms immediately, lots of congestion and achiness and a horrific 3 day headache that believe or not seemed to be radiating all of the way from my gallbladder through my right shoulder and into my neck. My liver and kidneys ached a bit too, so I lowered my dose of niacin, thinking maybe I was pushing a detox too hard. At this point I'd gotten up to 250mg, so I came back down to 150. I'm currently at 200mg buffered 2x a day, and this dose gives me a very dry mouth but I feel ok. I've stopped zinc. It's also worth mentioning that I've been chronically constipated my whole life, and so I took an oxygenated magnesium twice too. My thinking was that I didn't want to be detoxing and not pooping, and this product is meant to give you multiple bowel movements the next day. And it did. I was on the toilet a lot with loose green stools, and the flu symptoms intensified. So I took a bunch of activated charcoal and I waited a couple of days before taking the magnesium again, and that time achieved no bowel movements. Its been 2 days since I had a bowel movement now, which is my "normal" and I'm not sure what to do about it, I think all of the activated charcoal to counteract the detox may have slowed things back down. I will probably do an enema tonight. I am doing fine with the incorporation of oats and beans, as well as alternating sunfiber and psyllium husk, but it hasn't made any consistent improvement in my bowel movements. My meat eating habits haven't changed as I've always eaten lots of high quality beef and chicken. Veggie and fruit habits changed some, I cut carrots and sweet potatoes out and the out of season fruits we were eating.
At the moment I am open to suggestions on tapering things a bit more, because I am a mother of two young children and we are moving across the country in a month. I can't be laid up with detox headaches and bipolar digestion, and I want to do this safely. I am also using myself as a sort of guinea pig in a sense, because I have loved ones that exhibit alarming signs of vitamin a poisoning and yet are skeptical. A brother with horrible open mouth sores and slow metabolism. A sister with diabetes 1, hypothyroidism, and nonstop rashes and sores all over her body. Not to mention a 3 year old daughter who was born at the peak of my high vitamin a and copper lifestyle, and has my chronic constipation and dry skin as well as a growing irritability and craving for chocolate. All that to say I want to do this right. There are people who need to know if the answer lies in low vA more than I do.
Throw me your thoughts, encouragements, criticisms, and personal experiences. I will continue to tweak and report any changes or new discoveries.
After being in the Weston a price world for about 5 years and the Peaty world for about 3, I was super skeptical of all of this. But Poisoning For Profits had overwhelming evidence imo and I figured what do I have to lose? The problem may lie in the fact that I'm an all or nothing kind of person.
I was eating a super high fat diet up until 3 weeks ago. Mostly from dairy-- raw cow and goat milk, and organic grass fed cheeses and yogurt. I'm very meticulous in choosing my brands, but come to find out a couple of them may have been fortified, unbeknownst to me. I also have always incorporated liver, whether through liver shots, paté, or dessicated supplements. I don't consume it religiously though, and mostly it's been cycling in and out of my diet for the last 3 years, as well as things like carrot salads. But overall I believe I've been eating a high vitamin and copper diet (and relatively low vitamin bs because of a bias against grains and legumes,) for quite some time.
Within 4 days of starting niacin and low vitamin a, my eyes became tender and sensitive to light. That seems to come and go and fluctuates day to day. About a week in, I developed a small patch of dry skin on my left hand. They look like small bumps filled with fluid, and can be very itchy at times. These are new issues to me, so I eased back a little bit, and added in 1 egg a day and an occasional glass of raw milk, but otherwise I was getting little to no vitamin a.
Two weeks in, I got a zinc supplement. I took a very small dose for 2 days-- about 5-7mg. I got raging flu symptoms immediately, lots of congestion and achiness and a horrific 3 day headache that believe or not seemed to be radiating all of the way from my gallbladder through my right shoulder and into my neck. My liver and kidneys ached a bit too, so I lowered my dose of niacin, thinking maybe I was pushing a detox too hard. At this point I'd gotten up to 250mg, so I came back down to 150. I'm currently at 200mg buffered 2x a day, and this dose gives me a very dry mouth but I feel ok. I've stopped zinc. It's also worth mentioning that I've been chronically constipated my whole life, and so I took an oxygenated magnesium twice too. My thinking was that I didn't want to be detoxing and not pooping, and this product is meant to give you multiple bowel movements the next day. And it did. I was on the toilet a lot with loose green stools, and the flu symptoms intensified. So I took a bunch of activated charcoal and I waited a couple of days before taking the magnesium again, and that time achieved no bowel movements. Its been 2 days since I had a bowel movement now, which is my "normal" and I'm not sure what to do about it, I think all of the activated charcoal to counteract the detox may have slowed things back down. I will probably do an enema tonight. I am doing fine with the incorporation of oats and beans, as well as alternating sunfiber and psyllium husk, but it hasn't made any consistent improvement in my bowel movements. My meat eating habits haven't changed as I've always eaten lots of high quality beef and chicken. Veggie and fruit habits changed some, I cut carrots and sweet potatoes out and the out of season fruits we were eating.
At the moment I am open to suggestions on tapering things a bit more, because I am a mother of two young children and we are moving across the country in a month. I can't be laid up with detox headaches and bipolar digestion, and I want to do this safely. I am also using myself as a sort of guinea pig in a sense, because I have loved ones that exhibit alarming signs of vitamin a poisoning and yet are skeptical. A brother with horrible open mouth sores and slow metabolism. A sister with diabetes 1, hypothyroidism, and nonstop rashes and sores all over her body. Not to mention a 3 year old daughter who was born at the peak of my high vitamin a and copper lifestyle, and has my chronic constipation and dry skin as well as a growing irritability and craving for chocolate. All that to say I want to do this right. There are people who need to know if the answer lies in low vA more than I do.
Throw me your thoughts, encouragements, criticisms, and personal experiences. I will continue to tweak and report any changes or new discoveries.