Men Should Ejaculate at Least 21 Times a Month To Slash Their Prostate Cancer Risk

[RenaissanceMan]

People will find anything to help them validate their lifestyle — this bull**** prostate cancer myth is people cherry picking bad studies so they can justify their addictions

 

[dukesbobby777]

Loving this thread. All of us hand humpers together. Seriously though, maybe doing it once or twice per week if you don’t have a partner is probably just fine. I also don’t believe in this no fap nonsense. It doesn’t increase androgens. Maybe up to a certain point it can have benefits (do they say seven days?). But I find no benefits at all beyond a week or so. Certainly nothing that attracts women through ‘pheromones’. I tried it for three months and it just made me miserable and tense.

 

[RenaissanceMan]

Yes, no fap and semeb restrictions Is bull****. Mostly nuerotic loosers that have low androgenic profile and low bone density do It.
The only true benefit Is lowered prolactin.

Definitely not bull****. Just a few of the men who have either openly said or suggested that they practice NoFap/SR:

Rickson Gracie, world-renowned 9th-Degree BJJ Red Belt

Kanye West

Elon Musk

Andrew Huberman, Stanford Neuroscientist

Elliott Hulse

Donald Trump

50 Cent

Rapper Kevin Gates

Muhammad Ali and Winston Churchill


View: https://youtu.be/jBUdP608pGo

 

[artlange]

Can't access the study without paying ...

The Abstract says:



So they questioned them, checked vital signs in 1992 and 2010 and according to the reported answers they concluded that fapping X amount of times is healthy? Realy don't know how valid this is, considering how many other factors go into health.

But i am certain taking care of these urges is normal and healthy if not done excesseviely (which many people going nofap struggle with, they are porn addicted and hammer at it multiple times everyday).

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The real question is how i ascend to godhood while activating my pineal gland now? NoFap and holding my breath until i pass out seemed so elegant and logical at the time ... "sarcasm off".

I liked the puns tho:

use sci-hub.st to get past the paywall to get a pdf of the article . Using the DOI number seems to work best for me.. this seems to work on most journal articles.

 

[Lumalux]

Just a few of the men who have either openly said or suggested that they practice NoFap/SR:

Rickson Gracie, world-renowned 9th-Degree BJJ Red Belt

Kanye West

Elon Musk

Andrew Huberman, Stanford Neuroscientist

Elliott Hulse

Donald Trump

50 Cent

Rapper Kevin Gates

Muhammad Ali and Winston Churchill


View: https://youtu.be/jBUdP608pGo

I see a mix of truly admirable and positively horrible, miserable people. What's your point?

 

[InChristAlone]

Testosterone peaks every 7 days to ejaculate for 40+ males. Young healthy males can probably get away with more.

 

[Nebula]

Ejaculating multiple times per day is what can harm men’s brain and physical health. It probably overstimulates the pituitary gland without giving it a chance to return to baseline. Once every few days or less probably has negligible effect for better or worse, but once the pituitary gland has become chronically overactive it can be very difficult to return it to normal. The nofap reset thing makes sense but it doesn’t seem to work for a lot of people. Their pituitary gland may require thyroid therapy and maybe a prolactin inhibitor to reduce excessive pituitary activity and restore optimal gonad function.

My experience is multiple times per day is definitely very damaging. Once every few days or less, doesn’t make a big difference to health either way, but ejaculating every 1-4 weeks can be a useful tool for some men who want to harness built up sexual energy for some purpose.

 

[Lumalux]

Ejaculating multiple times per day is what can harm men’s brain and physical health. It probably overstimulates the pituitary gland without giving it a chance to return to baseline. Once every few days or less probably has negligible effect for better or worse, but once the pituitary gland has become chronically overactive it can be very difficult to return it to normal. The nofap reset thing makes sense but it doesn’t seem to work for a lot of people. Their pituitary gland may require thyroid therapy and maybe a prolactin inhibitor to reduce excessive pituitary activity and restore optimal gonad function.

My experience is multiple times per day is definitely very damaging. Once every few days or less, doesn’t make a big difference to health either way, but ejaculating every 1-4 weeks can be a useful tool for some men who want to harness built up sexual energy for some purpose.

I can respect this advice. It's the total abstinence thing that seems unnatural to me.

 

[stoic]

People who promote abstinence generally do it for one of two reasons: religion and lack of self-control.

The first need to get in touch with their body; the second with their mind.

I think moderation is best in all things.

 

[TheSir]

People who promote abstinence generally do it for one of two reasons: religion and lack of self-control.

The first need to get in touch with their body; the second with their mind.

I think moderation is best in all things.

None promote it because of the perceived systemic benefits?

 

[mrchibbs]

DHT Prevents Prostate Cancer And May Even Treat It

I am sure many of the forum users here are aware of the "controversy" that surrounds the role of androgens in prostate cancer and MPB. By "controversy" I really mean stupidity/fraud, as there is no physiological rationale under which a strong androgen like DHT, which is at its lowest levels in...

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We know DHT is the driver of libido in a male. Is it possible that these people who were ejaculating frequently were in a healthier state, practicing daily sex with their partner? This could mean that this study is simply a correlation, and not the cause of the lower rates of prostate cancer. It was the DHT or healthier metabolism protecting them?

This is completely a theory, but it makes more sense to me. And if this is the case, it can't be compared to teens and young adults fapping in their bedroom instead of going out and finding a sexual partner.

I think this is a big factor, having regular sex with a partner is likely profoundly anti-stress and the benefits probably aren't related to the actual act of ejaculation.

 

[Lumalux]

None promote it because of the perceived systemic benefits?

I can tell you when I have abstained for an extended period of time, the resulting orgasm is usually underwhelming. I do think that the heightened feeling of sexual well-being that accompanies delay of gratification and the anticipation of it can have a positive result, but it's the all-or-nothing mindset that has me baffled.

 

[Lumalux]

I think this is a big factor, having regular sex with a partner is likely profoundly anti-stress and the benefits probably aren't related to the actual act of ejaculation.

I can agree with that. I think that interaction with a partner is almost always preferable to taking matters into your own hand(s), but doing so in itself is not destructive.

 

[TheSir]

I can tell you when I have abstained for an extended period of time, the resulting orgasm is usually underwhelming.

I share your observation. Sex is like beer, it becomes the better the more often you indulge in it.

but it's the all-or-nothing mindset that has me baffled.

´What exactly do you mean by this? Every day vs never?

 

[Lumalux]

Yes - like how you must deal with an alcoholic.

 

[TheSir]

Yes - like how you must deal with an alcoholic.

Indeed, forced absolutes are difficult to deal with. It'd be better to simply seek to ejaculate as little as convenient. Over time you're going to notice that you naturally do it less and less. Eventually it'll feel natural to forgo it altogether. By then you will have found more useful pursuits towards which to channel sexual energy. It is only in passivity that abstinence becomes unnatural.

 

[stoic]

None promote it because of the perceived systemic benefits?

True, I am only generalising based on what I read from posters.

Don't you think a lot of these perceived benefits are psychological?

If you believe masturbation is bad, you will inevitably feel guilty after doing it.

In turn, taking control of your life and acting in accordance with your beliefs will make you feel better.

 

[TheSir]

Don't you think a lot of these perceived benefits are psychological?

Evidently they're holistic: psychological, social, physiological and spiritual. More than that, they're cumulative.

If you believe masturbation is bad, you will inevitably feel guilty after doing it.

Placebo is of course a factor -- yet many notice the consequences even before they've arrived at any conclusion in regards to the nature of indulgence/abstinence. I was one of such individuals: I only understood what I was dealing with once I began researching why I felt so great when I did not ejaculate for a while.

In turn, taking control of your life and acting in accordance with your beliefs will make you feel better.

Would you dispute the notion that exercising complete mastery over your sexual urge is a fundamental part of taking control of your life?

 

[mrchibbs]

I can agree with that. I think that interaction with a partner is almost always preferable to taking matters into your own hand(s), but doing so in itself is not destructive.

It's not, but I think it's dependent upon the situation. Generally after sex one feels satisfied and warm. The same does not hold true for masturbation. Skin-to-skin contact and the emotional benefits of the interaction with someone you enjoy (hopefully) probably provide a variety of anabolic, anti-stress benefits which simple masturbation and ejaculation may not provide. So I think masturbation in a context of suboptimal health/metabolism can be transiently soothing but effectively have deleterious overall effects. Simply taking note of the body temperature and feelings in the aftermath of the act can indicate whether or not the exercise was fruitful.
Danny Roddy has said that it's important to look at masturbation as a physical activity, and take some juice/snack afterwards to compensate for potential hypoglycemic/catabolic effects.

 

[Jam]

I ejaculate 21 times per day, just to be safe...