Such_Saturation
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Or it was dirty lysine and it dripped into your lungs...
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Yes I think I just overdid it. I don't think taking lower doses (1 gram or something) of lysine a few times a week will have negative consequences.Too much of a good thing is a bad thing.
I think you just overdid it, but that can happen with every supplement.
I throw a couple of grams of lysine, taurine, and a bit more of glycine in with other stuff when drinking a smoothie. I would never have thought of dumping in 6 grams, the taste alone guides you away from this.
Kyle wouldn’t taking it alone increase the absorbtion rate of the aminos, vs taking it with food?
6 grams a day was what the studies on lysine used as a dose to significantly lower nitric oxide, so I followed that dosage.It was this Nathan's post about lysine's strong anti-depressive property which made me try it. I can confirm that it has very profound mood lifting effect. I would say within 10-20 minutes you could feel it's strong anti-serotonin action - no more aggression, no more panicky mood. But I would not relay exclusively on a lysine on a long run. Instead I would try to use mixture of substances to lower serotonin - cypro, ginger, aspirin, thyroid, carrots and occasional lysine etc.
Now, I'm not an expert with doses, but I think 6 grams is an excess. What did you want to achieve with that amount of lysine?
I have had mixed results with BCAAs. Sometimes I get a great anti-serotonin effect and mood-lift. While at other times it induces a feeling of apathy or depression. Probably because dopamine gets lowered too. I only use BCAA nowadays when I suspect I have high serotonin and want to quickly lower serotonin.I'm surprised anybody actually notices any difference from taking isolated amino acids. There's obviously plenty of research in support of them, especially BCAAs blocking serotonin, but these are often in controlled environments, short lived and not meant to be long term. I think there's a reason why Ray doesn't recommend isolated amino acids. The manufacturing processes alone are not always trustworthy. I tried supplementing with BCAAs, L-phenylalanine, and Tyrosine. I noticed from BCAAs that my perceived exertion and recovery from workouts was better, probably because it is tryptophan release from muscle breakdown, and subsequently an increase in serotonin that induces the feeling of fatigue. I don't discount this, but I also ended up realizing that there are other, more effective ways to achieve the same end, namely a drink with lots of sugar while I workout (preventing the spike in cortisol, and thus preventing muscle tissue breakdown- to a lesser degree, less tryptophan and serotonin).
I have had mixed results with BCAAs. Sometimes I get a great anti-serotonin effect and mood-lift. While at other times it induces a feeling of apathy or depression. Probably because dopamine gets lowered too. I only use BCAA when I suspect I have high serotonin and want to quickly lower serotonin.
reducing nitric oxide too much probablyJust stopped taking inosine because it was definitely giving me a stuffy nose like lysine. I was taking 1.5grams