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Does anyone know if these machines would work on homogenized milk? I think you would have to buy non-homogenized milk in order to separate the fat.
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Does anyone know if these machines would work on homogenized milk? I think you would have to buy non-homogenized milk in order to separate the fat.
Slightly OT: why did you write "as the late forum member Travis pointed out..." ??
Does anyone know if these machines would work on homogenized milk? I think you would have to buy non-homogenized milk in order to separate the fat.
Oh I see! No I didn't hear he was stepping away. That actually bums me out that he won't be posting.You didn't hear of his passing?
I was just kidding. He retired from the forum for the time being, so just a silly joke.
The lower tier ones do not, and I cannot find information on whether the higher tier ones can or can't, but I suspect they cannot either for that reason, and because of the globule size of homogenized milk being dramatically smaller than that of unhomogenized cow milk and even goat milk. It will likely just work on store bought pasteurized goat milk and raw/non-homogenized pasteurized cow milk.
I found a brand of cow's milk that is grass fed, and only regular pasteurized and not homogenized. This is the mildest type of milk you can get besides raw (apparently you want to avoid ultra pasteurization as it kills the nutrients more than regular pasteurization). Looks like the store "Fresh Thyme" here in the Midwest sells it. Will try to find it later today.
I also bought a cheaper $140 cream separator from ebay. So I can give this a shot soon.
BTW, goat's milk is naturally homogenized apparently... so I think that would mean you may end up with a bit higher than the 0.02, 0.05% fat content using the cream separator? based upon the reply I got from the manufacturer (Milky)
That all makes sense. I think the real distinguisher is probably grass-fed vs. CAFO. The cow's milk I want to try is grass fed and not homogenized, which are the two most important to me.
Is most goat milk bought in stores un-homogenized? I think I read that since goat milk is naturally homogenized, people tend to not bother machine homogenizing it further? Is that true?
The effect of pasteurization or ultra pasteurization on nutrients is not something to worry about imo. Even if they are reduced, the amount isn't something that makes a difference in the grand scheme of things. There's probably a difference in the amount of nutrients between different brands of milk, and even in different batches of any particular brand. It's really not something that makes a difference. Even something like 80% of the 'normal' amount of nutrients would be just fine.
I've been considering the $100 machine but the cost of shipping to the US puts me off. It doubles the cost, even with the slowest shipping method.
I've been considering the $100 machine but the cost of shipping to the US puts me off. It doubles the cost, even with the slowest shipping method.
Yeah that's why I went hunting on ebay instead and got something for $140.
It doubles the cost? Where are you ordering yours from?
It probably depends on where you order yours from and which machine. The shipping is expensive on mine too, but mine is the more expensive model so while it is expensive shipping it certainty doesn't double it the price. But I can see it nearly doubling the price if you buy the cheaper one.
Just as a kind of sanity check, how much cream:skim milk should you expect to get from goat's milk (as a kind of check to make sure it's separating right)? For cow's milk, it's about a 1:10 ratio by volume.