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Hi and thanks, i am in agreement with you and i have read everything i could find from Ray about cancer and also Georgi. I am doing low fat as per many of georgi's posts. I avoid mainstream medicine and even alternative. Everyone is trying to sell something. I just dont want to take anything that might make things worse but it looks pretty safe if i keep the b1 in the 1 to 3 gr per day range.a quote from the linked article:
"Thiamine supplementation may contribute to a high rate of tumor cell survival, proliferation and chemotherapy resistance. Thiamine has also been implicated in cancer through its effects on matrix metalloproteinases, prostaglandins, cyclooxygenase-2, reactive oxygen species, and nitric oxide synthase. However, some studies have suggested that thiamine may exhibit some antitumor effects. The role of thiamine in cancer is controversial. However, thiamine deficiency may occur in patients with cancer and cause serious disorders, including Wernicke’s encephalopathy, that require parenteral thiamine supplementation. A very high dose of thiamine produces a growth-inhibitory effect in cancer. Therefore, further investigations of thiamine in cancer are needed to clarify this relationship."
The title of the article is:
The Role of Thiamine in Cancer: Possible Genetic and Cellular Signaling Mechanisms
It is posted in this publication: Cancer Genomics & Proteomics.
I'm a Ray Peat fan. This puts me in the camp that believes most illness is caused by environmental factors. "Modern" medicine got hijacked by the Genetics devotees sometime after WWII and around Nixon's time as President. Peat discusses this quite a bit. The perspective that blames EVERYTHING on genetics also holds the idea that cancer cells are evil and must be destroyed. Another way to look at it is that the cancer cells are sick because their environment is damaging to them.
The oncologists who practice slash and burn don't like things that get in the way of their slash and burn. Improving the quality of the patient's internal environment can do that. Many oncologists don't like thiamine because it will cancel out the devastating effects of chemotherapy drugs which are used to slash and burn cancer cells.
suggested reading:
The prior Ray Peat articles linked to earlier.
also:
bioenergetic search This is a search for "genetics" in Ray Peat interviews. Read through, find one you find of interest, listen to the program.
also:
Foundational Ray Peat Interviews from 2016-2018 by Danny Roddy
"You're changing your past every time you learn something because you become a different organism." — Ray Peat (2019)dannyroddy.substack.com
I cannot make the decision to take thiamine for you. This is your body and your decision. I encourage you to learn about it and to also learn about the problems that are rampant with the current popular cancer "treatments" promoted by the Medical Industrial Complex.