Cirion
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Newbie, what would you suggest me to start off on to keep things simple, and refine later with approximately TDEE of 3500 calories? 6'0'' male 200 lbs currently roughly 15% BF.
I like to keep an open mind, so I'd like to give this whole Peating thing a try. I have tried so many different diets with little luck. Have actually tried super high carb / low fat in the past and at first it was pretty good but ultimately it failed, fatigued, moody etc. I suspect I did a few things wrong though to make it start out good and bomb later.
I eat around 3500 cal a day these days. Just a starting point, I'm aware this amount may go up or down depending on metabolism changes.
As of this moment, I'm doing something like 50-80g fat a day, 400-500g carb a day, 150g protein a day. Not much luck though. Don't feel all that great, fatigue, moody, need lots of sleep. However, this was me kinda doing my own thing before attempting actual Peat diet, and a lot of the carbs have been from starch, not sugar.
Fruit, honey, low fat milk, OJ, gelatin, eggs, cheese, carrots, coconut oil - these seem to be common staples from what I see here. Which fruit in particular? Some are heavy in pesticides (like apples), no? Why fruit juice instead of actual fruit, which will have more nutrition per calorie?
I understand avoiding PUFA, but from what I've read, the recommendation is to limit MUFA as well? But if that's the case, why is butter recommended? Butter is pure MUFA. Coconut oil has obvious benefits that I think most people (non-Peat included) understand. My impression was that the body prefers to burn MUFA over SFA for fuel, so the idea that SFA is better than MUFA is new to me (I know that SFA is good though).
Recommendation here seems to limit or even basically eliminate fat (eliminating fat seems like a red flag to me, any extremist diet seems wrong to me...) so I think I'd prefer to do around the 50g fat. Even 2% milk has some fat anyway, and whole eggs are going to net you some fat as well.
Eliminating muscle meats (does this include red meats like grass fed beef I like to eat a lot?) basically means you're only gonna get protein from cheese and milk and the occasional egg right? Seems like a lot of milk to get 150 g protein lol.
Also what about all this other stuff I hear frequently, aspirin for one example, vitamin E for another, and it seems like a lot of other creams and whatnot are pushed around here as well?
Caffeine seems to be heavily pushed around here as well. I don't think it's a good idea for me. I'm actually trying to wean off caffeine. It feels good in the moment, but I always crash after - (I always get sugar crashes too! Does this get better over time?) In addition, I end up building a "Need" for it, to where I literally cannot function without it, cannot get out of bed without it. Is it really a good idea to promote dependence on a drug? Maybe once my metabolism is not awful I might be able to tolerate it, but right now not so sure, lol. Actually, one of my main problems with caffeine, is that it seriously impacts my ability to sleep. Bad sleep = bad shape the next day = endless vicious cycle with caffeine and constantly elevated adrenaline = adrenal burnout
Newbie, what would you suggest me to start off on to keep things simple, and refine later with approximately TDEE of 3500 calories? 6'0'' male 200 lbs currently roughly 15% BF.
I like to keep an open mind, so I'd like to give this whole Peating thing a try. I have tried so many different diets with little luck. Have actually tried super high carb / low fat in the past and at first it was pretty good but ultimately it failed, fatigued, moody etc. I suspect I did a few things wrong though to make it start out good and bomb later.
I eat around 3500 cal a day these days. Just a starting point, I'm aware this amount may go up or down depending on metabolism changes.
As of this moment, I'm doing something like 50-80g fat a day, 400-500g carb a day, 150g protein a day. Not much luck though. Don't feel all that great, fatigue, moody, need lots of sleep. However, this was me kinda doing my own thing before attempting actual Peat diet, and a lot of the carbs have been from starch, not sugar.
Fruit, honey, low fat milk, OJ, gelatin, eggs, cheese, carrots, coconut oil - these seem to be common staples from what I see here. Which fruit in particular? Some are heavy in pesticides (like apples), no? Why fruit juice instead of actual fruit, which will have more nutrition per calorie?
I understand avoiding PUFA, but from what I've read, the recommendation is to limit MUFA as well? But if that's the case, why is butter recommended? Butter is pure MUFA. Coconut oil has obvious benefits that I think most people (non-Peat included) understand. My impression was that the body prefers to burn MUFA over SFA for fuel, so the idea that SFA is better than MUFA is new to me (I know that SFA is good though).
Recommendation here seems to limit or even basically eliminate fat (eliminating fat seems like a red flag to me, any extremist diet seems wrong to me...) so I think I'd prefer to do around the 50g fat. Even 2% milk has some fat anyway, and whole eggs are going to net you some fat as well.
Eliminating muscle meats (does this include red meats like grass fed beef I like to eat a lot?) basically means you're only gonna get protein from cheese and milk and the occasional egg right? Seems like a lot of milk to get 150 g protein lol.
Also what about all this other stuff I hear frequently, aspirin for one example, vitamin E for another, and it seems like a lot of other creams and whatnot are pushed around here as well?
Caffeine seems to be heavily pushed around here as well. I don't think it's a good idea for me. I'm actually trying to wean off caffeine. It feels good in the moment, but I always crash after - (I always get sugar crashes too! Does this get better over time?) In addition, I end up building a "Need" for it, to where I literally cannot function without it, cannot get out of bed without it. Is it really a good idea to promote dependence on a drug? Maybe once my metabolism is not awful I might be able to tolerate it, but right now not so sure, lol. Actually, one of my main problems with caffeine, is that it seriously impacts my ability to sleep. Bad sleep = bad shape the next day = endless vicious cycle with caffeine and constantly elevated adrenaline = adrenal burnout
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