Amazoniac
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How nicotine from cigarettes differ from food?
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Amazoniac said:How nicotine from cigarettes differ from food?
magCarlsen said:Amazoniac said:How nicotine from cigarettes differ from food?
The nicotine in food is really low.
magCarlsen said:jyb said:magCarlsen said:Smoking is well-established and scientifically supported to be harmful but I can't see, say, a cigarette once a month causing much harm at all.
You just contradicted yourself with the quote from Peat mentioning some positive effects of nicotine. These beneficial effect of nicotine are very mainstream research. So, what do you mean by "well established"? I believe you are not informed on nicotine nor smoking. It's like people saying fish oil is great because there is a lot of good research on omega-3 without being aware of the debate.
I didn't contradict myself at all. I said, beneficial effects of NICOTINE, there are WAY MORE COMPOUNDS IN TOBACCO that JUST nicotine.
You make it sound like Peat approves of smoking, he doesn't, in the slightest.
carbon monoxide and other serious toxins are produced by burning the tobacco
All smoke is carcinogenic. It's true that nicotine can be protective in some situations, and usually that's in older people. In those situations, it's best to use it orally or transdermally.
Mainstream science agrees with Peat.
Thousands of different chemicals in cigarette smoke, including polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (such as benzopyrene), formaldehyde, cadmium, nickel, arsenic, tobacco-specific nitrosamines (TSNAs), phenols, and many others contribute to the harmful effects of smoking.
pboy said:i doubt anyone here is actually going to care about what ive just said and will just think of tobacco as commercial cigarettes, with all its stigmas, and be in a science based mindset, but its all good, ill just put it out there anyways
Jib said:pboy:
Just tried whole leaf tobacco for the first time today. Got some yesterday, then shredded it and blended it (I got 3 separate kinds) myself today, and used the machine to inject the tobacco into tubes.
This is whole leaf, additive-free, pure tobacco. I agree COMPLETELY that it's like a completely different substance. The smoke just feels so much cleaner, and the taste and aroma is amazing. I also like the process of separating the stems, running them through the hand-crank shredder, and using the hand-crank injector machine. There's something very soothing about the whole process. Misting them if they're too dry, and drying them out if they're too moist, is part of the process too, and while it can be a little tedious, it goes quickly and is just as enjoyable as the rest of the process IMO.
That's also not to mention I got 2 pounds of tobacco for 30 dollars. 2 POUNDS! I was paying 35 dollars for 5 OUNCES when I was getting tins of roll-your-own at the local store.
I have barely made a dent in the whole leaf tobacco I have, and I have a TON of cigarettes rolled up, as well as a big jar full of the shredded, blended tobacco. You can tell while you're handling it that it's way different even from the American Spirit roll-your-own tobacco. Everything about it is just better in every way.
Very interesting stories you've shared too, thanks for that.
Blinkyrocket said:Anybody who smokes even organic tobacco notice that physical exertion is harder due to worse breathing? Or is emphysema and coughing something that's more likely caused by the stuff in cigarettes besides tobacco?