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natedawggh said:Hi Peata!
I've been having this same trouble with my weight... but I have been taking K2 (specifically the Life Extension brand Super K, which is K1 and two forms of K2 without bad additives that so many of the K2 sups have). Have had some great progress with it. I had a lot of lower back pain (kidney pain?) before taking it and I have absolutely none now at all since Christmas. My temps are also always very high now (97.8 this morning on waking) and I only have to take a tiny bit of thyroid once in the morning and once in the evening to keep my temps up. My weight has been fluctuating but to be honest I had a few drinks during the holidays and that always sets me back (as well as the occasional dining out, even just once every two weeks will add back on 2-5 lbs).
I have been trying something new, where I figured that if weight gain ultimately is caused by the presence of too much PUFAs in the body (and liver?) I have been increasing my saturated fat dramatically (the low/no fat strategy only made me gain wait and feel terrible).
I have been going through about a full stick of butter every day (in coffee, warm milk, etc). As well as eating dishes that include heavy cream and the usual Peatian friendly things like fruit, potatoes, gelatinous meats, etc. such as fruit salad with whipped cream and ricotta cheese, or chicken fricassee with homemade stock. I have, as expected, lost about a pound every day that I have been doing this, so it is definitely not adding to the weight, it also raises my temperature and keeps it there longer. Also, saturated fat is slightly antiseptic, and some of the symptoms I notice after having high carb meals (such as bloating, etc.) are nonexistent with the high fat/high protien/high carb that I'm doing. I think the stabilizing effects of increased saturated fat intake can help stabilize mitochondria, eliminate PUFAs, aid in nutrient absorption and restore cellular integrity. I will report more on this as I continue doing it!
Peata said:Here are the supplements I'm taking, and not all of this is for the liver, but other things too.
D3 - 2,000 - several days on this
K2 - 15 mg - day #2
C - 1 g. - 2 months
Magnesium - 400 mg. - almost 3 weeks
jaa said:Does anyone take the 15mg dosage? Seems like overkill.
My understandin is that for normal health maintenance, a few hundred mcg is plenty. I mg is good for protecting against a little regular aspirin intake. There are some studies showing 15mg and higher - eg 45mg doses may have beneficial effects for recovery from some kinds of system imbalances, including liver troubles. Probably safe at high doses, but expensive. Lately I've been taking 4-5 drops some days - maybe roughly every 2-3 days. Considering increasing to every day, if I can remember it, along with all the other things. :)jaa said:Does anyone take the 15mg dosage? Seems like overkill.
sunmountain said:Lately I've slacked off on the D, but will try upping it again. Is there any other supp that high K will affect negatively?
thanks
lindsay said:Peata - I'm also interested to see how this goes for you. I've been supplementing K2 for quite some time with good results, but only 5 mg. Maybe I will up my dose. It's done wonders for my teeth and bones - I can feel it.
Peata said:lindsay said:Peata - I'm also interested to see how this goes for you. I've been supplementing K2 for quite some time with good results, but only 5 mg. Maybe I will up my dose. It's done wonders for my teeth and bones - I can feel it.
If lower amount works for you, maybe it's not necessary to go higher.
barbwirehouse said:Peata said:Here are the supplements I'm taking, and not all of this is for the liver, but other things too.
D3 - 2,000 - several days on this
K2 - 15 mg - day #2
C - 1 g. - 2 months
Magnesium - 400 mg. - almost 3 weeks
I'm assuming C is caffeine? 1 gram is quite a lot. A strong dose is 150 - 400 mg. Are you aware?
jaa said:Does anyone take the 15mg dosage? Seems like overkill.
I believe it is overkill, probably just to sell more product.
lindsay said:Peata said:lindsay said:Peata - I'm also interested to see how this goes for you. I've been supplementing K2 for quite some time with good results, but only 5 mg. Maybe I will up my dose. It's done wonders for my teeth and bones - I can feel it.
If lower amount works for you, maybe it's not necessary to go higher.
Yes, but I don't have a gallbladder, so I'm not sure how much I'm actually absorbing. And I have issues with water weight all the time, despite taking thyroid. I feel there is something off with my liver, but not sure. It could just be in my head.
narouz said:Peata-
Sorry, coming to your thread very late.
In your original post,
"I wanted a thread for those who have done the protocol"
what protocol does that refer to?
4peatssake said:Have you considered pau d'arco, Peata?
I posted some additional Peat info about it yesterday on this thread. I'm late to the party here. :)
http://www.raypeatforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=67766#p67766
I'm on day 4 taking it as a tea, specifically to cleanse my liver. Also doing Thorne K2 and I already drink a lot of coffee.
Charlie said:Peata are you seeing any results?