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I gained so many pounds initially when I started peating. I also still consumed a lot of pufas. My advice is beware of pufas!!!!Perfect thank you!
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I gained so many pounds initially when I started peating. I also still consumed a lot of pufas. My advice is beware of pufas!!!!Perfect thank you!
Hi and thank you-Hi @Franesthesia,
How many carbs do you get each day?
Are you having rice or potato with your beef?
60 ounces of apple, orange or grape juice would be nearly 800 calories, and provide you with some good sugars, vitamin C, potassium etc.
Then add your cottage cheese, turkey, beef, gelatin, coconut and bamboo shoots, for protein and saturated fat.
Some peeled and cooked potato could add a few more calories from starch!
Thank you for such a great explanation. I’ve been told I’m not eating enough. And I am a little sicker than weight gain but I think my body has learned to cope. Your encouraging words will keep me going. I’ll have to buy some baggy clothes for the time being but luckily I’m heading into winter and not bikini season. Thank you!
Thank you! My thyroid is an issue and working on it. I’m assuming my liver is functioning due to normal LFTs unless there is a better way to measure liver function?I started low fat and high carb and I'm losing fat at around 3500 kcal/day. You need to have good enough thyroid/liver to have good enough glycogen-storing capacity
Enough thyroid level was essential for me to stop having blood sugar swings which allow the liver to store glycogen as i understand, egg yolks I found also essential for the liver/glycogen, check liver enzyme level ALT AST I believe. Iv had problems with fructose before but now with a choline supplement and egg yolks daily and low fat doesn't seem to be the case anymore.Thank you! My thyroid is an issue and working on it. I’m assuming my liver is functioning due to normal LFTs unless there is a better way to measure liver function?
What carbs and fats that you eat?
Unfortunately I’m not in the UK. That home lab tests looks awesome.Enough thyroid level was essential for me to stop having blood sugar swings which allow the liver to store glycogen as i understand, egg yolks I found also essential for the liver/glycogen, check liver enzyme level ALT AST I believe. Iv had problems with fructose before but now with a choline supplement and egg yolks daily and low fat doesn't seem to be the case anymore.
look at my Crono if it helps, 70% carbs /20% profit/10 fat approx. if you live in the UK there are cheap Thriva home blood tests.
Interesting. Sorry if I'm hijacking this threat now, but I have a very similar story as Franesthesia and you seem like someone who may have an answer to my problem as well. Low Carb helped me lose my excess weight and all the symptoms that came with it. But starting to peat made everything worse again. I gained 30 pounds and all the fruit really didnt do me any good in terms of my liver. I have a terrible fructose tolerance and my glycogen stores never seem to fully charge up. I cant go 2h without getting super hungry and low energy again. I have currently (after 8 months of peating) stopped my peatarian experiment and gone back to a rather low carb style diet after all of a sudden losing ALL of my appetite and cravings. I was low energy and hungry, but there was no urge in me left to go and eat anything, which resulted in me depending on caffein. And whenever I didnt consume any caffein (weekends i.e.) I'd just sleep forever. 20-30h without a break easily. Like I was hibernating. It was terrible. This only started after around 7-8 months in and I dont know what I could have done better.I started low fat and high carb and I'm losing fat at around 3500 kcal/day. You need to have good enough thyroid/liver to have good enough glycogen-storing capacity
Rita-Interesting. Sorry if I'm hijacking this threat now, but I have a very similar story as Franesthesia and you seem like someone who may have an answer to my problem as well. Low Carb helped me lose my excess weight and all the symptoms that came with it. But starting to peat made everything worse again. I gained 30 pounds and all the fruit really didnt do me any good in terms of my liver. I have a terrible fructose tolerance and my glycogen stores never seem to fully charge up. I cant go 2h without getting super hungry and low energy again. I have currently (after 8 months of peating) stopped my peatarian experiment and gone back to a rather low carb style diet after all of a sudden losing ALL of my appetite and cravings. I was low energy and hungry, but there was no urge in me left to go and eat anything, which resulted in me depending on caffein. And whenever I didnt consume any caffein (weekends i.e.) I'd just sleep forever. 20-30h without a break easily. Like I was hibernating. It was terrible. This only started after around 7-8 months in and I dont know what I could have done better.
I tried not to take any thyroid in the beginning, as it kept me ravenously hungry, caused crazy waves of overheating and sweating and made me overeat my calories which also contributed to weight gain. But the weight still piled on even without the thyroid hormone.
Any clues on what I could do better on my next round of peating?
Sorry again for hijacking the threat.
Thanks in advance
Thank you for that explanation… I'm starting to get the foundation of this now. Would you say eating your sugar w a protein and a little fat would help one with processing and using the sugar?@Rita. yeah that happens, its called the yoyo effect
low carbs slows down the thermostat of your body or basal metabilic rate by eating less caloruies. Then eating again more but not really changing your metabolic rate, you will get your fats cell filled up again because of the randle effect blocking sugar or oxidative metabolism.
so using niacinamide-aspirin-vitamin E and keeping your bloodsugar stabel every 90 minutes helps to shift away from fat burning and towards sugar burning
-edit - it sounds strange to burn sugar to loose fat, but the excess fat gets released into the blood stream and via the liver you pee it out
this last part of utilizing the sugar is more complex.Would you say eating your sugar w a protein and a little fat would help one with processing and using the sugar?
Ahhh ok this is making sense. I’m assuming my stress levels are still elevated because I’m having issues w hormones. So PUFA can be released despite eliminating them from my foods…meaning PUFA is caught in my tissues like other toxins? I had my urine tested and high levels of lead, black mold and plastic so this is where I’m linking PUFAs to hide too. Am I on the right track?this last part of utilizing the sugar is more complex.
it depends on your stress levels that can be releaseing PUFA into the blood blocking sugar burning via randle effect.
it can depend on your hormones when porgesterone is low, aldosterone increases and changes the metabolic state reducing insuline release. And estrogen that has risen may block your thyroid function.
Is fruit considered a carb and a sugar or just a sugar?@Franesthesia yes, mixed meals stimulated the digestive juice better. always eat a mixed meal. and try to have carbs into your system before eating eggs or high protein meals. for the protein releases more insulin than starch or sugar.
yes, fats can have a so called elimination half-time of 600 days from the stored fat tissue. so using aspirin-niacinamide-vitaminE is the best combination to inhibit their excessive release and prevent shifting away from sugar burning. while stress may creep up and trigger release of stored PUFA, until depleted over the yearsAhhh ok this is making sense. I’m assuming my stress levels are still elevated because I’m having issues w hormones. So PUFA can be released despite eliminating them from my foods…meaning PUFA is caught in my tissues like other toxins? I had my urine tested and high levels of lead, black mold and plastic so this is where I’m linking PUFAs to hide too. Am I on the right track?
fruit is a source usually evenly high in glucose and fructose, and these are both a form of carbohydratesIs fruit considered a carb and a sugar or just a sugar?
if you can handle the soluble fibers of fruit without bloating, you may eat fruit up to 1h before a protein meal. When more in a hurry then absorbing a couple of glasses of juice before the meal should prevent the stress response of low blood sugar.If not a carb, what kind of carb would you suggest to eat before eating high protein meal?
….keep in mind I’m looking to lose fat because I put in a few pounds since the start of Peating …and needed to lose before as well.
Thanks for the tip. I was using that exact combination too.@Rita. yeah that happens, its called the yoyo effect
low carbs slows down the thermostat of your body or basal metabilic rate by eating less caloruies. Then eating again more but not really changing your metabolic rate, you will get your fats cell filled up again because of the randle effect blocking sugar or oxidative metabolism.
so using niacinamide-aspirin-vitamin E and keeping your bloodsugar stabel every 90 minutes helps to shift away from fat burning and towards sugar burning
-edit - it sounds strange to burn sugar to loose fat, but the excess fat gets released into the blood stream and via the liver you pee it out