bradley
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Peatarian, how much Naltrexone were you taking? Morning or night?
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peatarian said:The naltrexone is best administered when you crush a pill and dissolve it in water. You then use a syringe. I have been using 4,5 mg a day.
peatarian said:nwo2012: Are you planning on using both at the same time?
I started with 2 mg of ondansetron a day and went up to 8 mg a day (twice 4 mg). I think it's important to not suddenly stop using it but gradually use less and less. I didn't have withdrawal symptoms (like a sudden rush of serotonin after stopping ondansetron) but I have heard about it from others. Just to warn you.
The naltrexone is best administered when you crush a pill and dissolve it in water. You then use a syringe. I have been using 4,5 mg a day.
I wish you great results.
I've known of people who took naloxone orally, 3 or 4 milligrams daily for 3 or 4 days, who felt better and slept better. I haven't had experience with ondansetron, but I think it's good to be cautious, maybe comparing it with cyproheptadine and tianeptine.
Birdie said:I've been using a dropper to measure my naltrexone. Not nearly as accurate. The syringe is a good idea. I started with 1.5 mg and am up to almost 3 mg. My understanding is that the dose can vary from person to person. I'm using it for Fibromyalgia. I seem to recall a 3.5 mg dose recommended for that. Perhaps because I've not worked up to 3.5 mg yet, I've noticed only a small improvement. It is so hard to judge these things. When I get to the right dose, then, I can judge better whether it is helping. But, I will assume that my serotonin is lowered at any rate.
peatarian said:Have you read the new newsletter? RP writes about exactly that. He compares the effects of estrogen on hot flushes in menopausal women to rats with morphine withdrawal and naloxone. Very interesting!
narouz said:nwo--
Did Peat ever give you a list of lab tests to have done?
nwo2012 said:narouz said:nwo--
Did Peat ever give you a list of lab tests to have done?
I only ever hinted at getting TSH rechecked to aim for under 1 but he didnt jump on it as being important. He never suggested any at all.
Danny Roddy has a list he recommends and I think they were shaped by his constant questioning of RP and others that have emailed RP.
narouz said:nwo2012 said:narouz said:nwo--
Did Peat ever give you a list of lab tests to have done?
Interesting how he did not, as you say, suggest tests for you.
It would seem to be his standard operating procedure.
Sometimes I hear him asking those who consult with him
about tests previously done.
Kind of surprising.
Interesting how he did not, as you say, suggest tests for you.
It would seem to be his standard operating procedure.
Sometimes I hear him asking those who consult with him
about tests previously done.
Kind of surprising.
Really? He never suggested any tests to me.
I sent him some later but he never asked.
Nor any of the other people I know asked him for help.
peatarian said:Ah, okay, I must have misread. Thank you for clarifying.
I think RP values some data. But he knows that many tests are flawed and most of them are invented only to help pharma companies sell drugs to alter the data.
There is a good documentary, 'House of Numbers', in which they talk about the Western Blot and the ELISA test and how inaccurate and basically useless they are. One scientist says later: 'They are among medicine's better tests.'
For instance Ray Peat suggests taking your temperature rather than having your TSH measured. If your temperature in the morning is constantly good it's very unlikely you have an infection for a long time so your TSH is most likely okay.
I think he values the prolactin test because it gives you an estimate about your serotonin level.
But all the other data usually checked in laboratories will not change his recommendations. He will give the same advice about PUFA and about light and about sugar and salt and thyroid whether your lymphocytes are 7 or 11.
If you consider that all these tests are based on a completely wrong idea of how cells work they cannot be very useful over all.
Every time I did research about a specific test I found out that the numbers can't be trusted, that it isn't accurate and that it's only done because it's always been done.
I know that some people send Ray Peat x-rays or mammography and ask for his opinion on bone density and such. Of course the first thing they will hear is about the danger of radioactive radiation.